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Stacking mass fx with aa

Liftingstud

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Looking to put together a summer stack... Idea so far

Hyperdrol x2 or the new DTP
Mass fx
Xfactor
Lean fx or glycobol

Thoughts?
 
Liftingstud said:
Looking to put together a summer stack... Idea so far

Hyperdrol x2 or the new DTP
Mass fx
Xfactor
Lean fx or glycobol

Thoughts?
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I would do this:

Mass fx 4 caps per day
HyperdrolX2 4 caps per day
Glycobol 4 caps per day

This stack would be great for adding muscle and keeping you looking full
 
Possibly looking at:
Mass fx
JW or DHP
Glycobol
Igf2

Not sure about HDx2... 6bromo is good but the other two have a AI with some other goodies... Any thoughts on this?
 
Liftingstud said:
Possibly looking at:
Mass fx
JW or DHP
Glycobol
Igf2

Not sure about HDx2... 6bromo is good but the other two have a AI with some other goodies... Any thoughts on this?
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What other two have AI's?

Jungle Warefare has ADED, which is actually more of a prohormone.

What other one has an AI in it. Let's also remember that not all AI's are created equally. To get the testosterone boosting effects from an AI, we don't want to "control" estrogen, we want to knock it down a peg, so that it's constantly trying to catch up ;)

Before it becomes estrogen, it starts out as testosterone. How Hyperdrol works is that 6-bromo reduces estrogen levels, which sends a signal to the HPTA to increase production of testosterone in attempt for it to convert into estrogens. It's honestly sort of like in the old cartoons, where the character sits on a mule's back holds a carrot at the end of a string to get it to move forward.

If you pick the wrong AI, it might not be strong enough for this to happen or it might clear your system too quickly upon cessation of the product, that you get an estrogen rebound.
 
I have heard the ph thing with JW and was kinda not keen on it. The new DTP will have reverstiol in it so that was the other AI I was speaking of. Not sure how the 2 compare... It's just it also has lots of other goodies that should help also. I know this is an AX forum so u are all about your products and I do like what u guys put out.

How do u think 6 bromo compared to reversitol?

Ohh yeah good info above.
 
Liftingstud said:
I have heard the ph thing with JW and was kinda not keen on it. The new DTP will have reverstiol in it so that was the other AI I was speaking of. Not sure how the 2 compare... It's just it also has lots of other goodies that should help also. I know this is an AX forum so u are all about your products and I do like what u guys put out.

How do u think 6 bromo compared to reversitol?

Ohh yeah good info above.
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Resveritrol is a stilbene, it's actually more akin to a SERM than an AI. It might have some mild, competative AI properties, and the compound has certainly been shown to cause mild increases in testosterone levels.

There's two kinds of enzyme inhibitors: suicidal and competative. The best way I've found to describe their difference is the ugly friend of the hot chick you are trying to get with when you're out on a Friday night... a "cockblocker", if you will.

In the case of a competative inhibitor (typical case) she follows you and your girl of interest around, complains about how "this place is such a drag, let's go somewhere else", and prevents you from having any time alone with the girl you're interested in. Eventually, she'll convince her friend to leave, and your left alone. Fortunately, in this instance, you are still able to find some other girls to hone in on.

In the case of a suicidal inhibitor, this girl now has a gun and a mad case of PMS. BANG! You're dead. She leaves with her friend. And you're dead, so you can't find any new girls to hit on.

In this case,
nasty-broad = inhibitor
attractive-girl = testosterone
you = aromatase enzyme

6b-bromo acts as suicidal inhibitor. It seeks out aromatase and literally kills it. As mentioned in my earlier post, the body senses a decrease in estrogen, and produces more testosterone in attempt to make more estrogen. Because there's less available enzyme, this becomes difficult, and testosterone production really takes off. Lastly, production of new enzyme is an incredibly slow and drawn out process that takes weeks to carry out, so when you discontinue usage of a product like Hyperdrol, it's anabolic effects slowly taper off over a period of about 2-3 weeks.
 
Very interesting... Took some grad level physiology in college but hard to tell what each of these compounds does and how they act to control estrogen. Thanks.
 
Does physiology delve into biochemical processes?

I ask because I honestly don't know what all the science deals with. My knowledge on these subjects comes from different scientific backgrounds, mostly chemistry and reaction engineering.
 
well human physiology is a science that deals with mechanical, physical, and biochem functions of the organs, cells and entire body. So yeah does...

Also took biochem and 2 organics but this was all 4 years ago, too.
 
In my personal opinion (although many might agree), biochem and o-chem seem to spend too much time on the mechanism theories and not enough the concepts and applications of them. These stupid mechanisms never really made much sense to me until after taking inorganic, where we learned about bond theory.
 
thesinner said:
In my personal opinion (although many might agree), biochem and o-chem seem to spend too much time on the mechanism theories and not enough the concepts and applications of them. These stupid mechanisms never really made much sense to me until after taking inorganic, where we learned about bond theory.
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true... i am a biology major who went to optometry school after so I have had my share of science classes in college: 2 inorganic chem, 2 organic, human physiology, biochem, cell biology, neurology, human anatomy... then in opt school: pharmacology, ocular pharm, more anatomy, neurology, physiology again, more biochem... list goes on

I find it hard to figure out the difference in all these compounds... they are like decrease estrogen and increase test but rarely go into mechanisms of whats going on to do this. I mean most people really could care less, but if you understand whats going on it is easier to figure out what works and what is doesnt or which is more effective compared to others.

So 6 bromo is a suicide AI... I have used the orginal Hyperdrol (dont think it was X2) and the orginal Mass FX with orginal Retain. That was when it first came out and that was over a year and half ago. (It might have been right when HDX2 and retain 2 came out) So might give the new ones a run and add glycobol and IGF-2.

What do you think about these herbs used as test boosters for someone in the 28 yo range? Currently my first run with Adv PCT after a 6 wk Hdrol run and starting 3 weeks and definately feel good. But also running DHT with it as a test booster and combo is very nice.

Would a stack like...
the new DHP (reformulated and added reversitiol)
HDX2
Mass FX
IGF-2
glycobol
...be over kill?
 
Liftingstud said:
true... i am a biology major who went to optometry school after so I have had my share of science classes in college: 2 inorganic chem, 2 organic, human physiology, biochem, cell biology, neurology, human anatomy... then in opt school: pharmacology, ocular pharm, more anatomy, neurology, physiology again, more biochem... list goes on

I find it hard to figure out the difference in all these compounds... they are like decrease estrogen and increase test but rarely go into mechanisms of whats going on to do this. I mean most people really could care less, but if you understand whats going on it is easier to figure out what works and what is doesnt or which is more effective compared to others.

So 6 bromo is a suicide AI... I have used the orginal Hyperdrol (dont think it was X2) and the orginal Mass FX with orginal Retain. That was when it first came out and that was over a year and half ago. (It might have been right when HDX2 and retain 2 came out) So might give the new ones a run and add glycobol and IGF-2.

What do you think about these herbs used as test boosters for someone in the 28 yo range? Currently my first run with Adv PCT after a 6 wk Hdrol run and starting 3 weeks and definately feel good. But also running DHT with it as a test booster and combo is very nice.

Would a stack like...
the new DHP (reformulated and added reversitiol)
HDX2
Mass FX
IGF-2
glycobol
...be over kill?
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Personally, I try to be a minimalist. Especially if you don't know the contributions of each product.

DHP + HDX2 + MFX + IGF-2 + G-bol will more than likely give you some nice gains.

But how would it compare if you pulled one out of the stack? Would your gains be that much less, as to justify the fifth? You really have no way of knowing. You know what I mean?

Generally speaking, I think 3 is a good number to cap your stacks with. If you're making a stack of 3+ products, I think it gets a little pricey and more and more difficult to figure out as to what's going on.
 
well okay maybe drop the DTP... think then for the four stack...
HD2 + Mass FX for the extra test and anabolic effects
glycobol for the nutrient repartioning and insulin-like effects and syngergistic effects with endocrine hormones
IGF-2 for the boost in GH

I feel this would be a potent combo due to these effects of each.
 
thesinner said:
Sounds like a plan, buddy.
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alright got the order placed and on it way...
Here what I am thinking

*HDX2: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 1 cap preworkout/ 1 cap before bed

*Mass FX: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 2 cap preworkout

*Glycobol: 2 caps before breakfast/ 2 caps before preworkout meal (15-20 min before meal)

*IGF-2: 2 caps first thing am/ 3 caps with preworkout shake/ 3 caps before bed (empty stomach)

*JP8: 2 scoops preworkout

*NOS level 1: 1/2 scoop preworkout and 1 scoop with Vitrago postworkout

Man ??? is should HDX2 and Mass FX need to taken on empty stomach? or with a meal?

I will add i workout at like 6pm on the weekdays.
 
Liftingstud said:
alright got the order placed and on it way...
Here what I am thinking

*HDX2: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 1 cap preworkout/ 1 cap before bed

*Mass FX: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 2 cap preworkout

*Glycobol: 2 caps before breakfast/ 2 caps before preworkout meal (15-20 min before meal)

*IGF-2: 2 caps first thing am/ 3 caps with preworkout shake/ 3 caps before bed (empty stomach)

*JP8: 2 scoops preworkout

*NOS level 1: 1/2 scoop preworkout and 1 scoop with Vitrago postworkout

Man ??? is should HDX2 and Mass FX need to taken on empty stomach? or with a meal?

I will add i workout at like 6pm on the weekdays.
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I usually recommend taking HDX2 and MassFX with food, mainly because some users get stomach aches when taking on an empty stomach. In terms of effectiveness, there's no perceivable difference between with or without food.
 
Liftingstud said:
alright got the order placed and on it way...
Here what I am thinking

*HDX2: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 1 cap preworkout/ 1 cap before bed

*Mass FX: 1 cap am/ 1 cap lunch time/ 2 cap preworkout

*Glycobol: 2 caps before breakfast/ 2 caps before preworkout meal (15-20 min before meal)

*IGF-2: 2 caps first thing am/ 3 caps with preworkout shake/ 3 caps before bed (empty stomach)

*JP8: 2 scoops preworkout

*NOS level 1: 1/2 scoop preworkout and 1 scoop with Vitrago postworkout

Man ??? is should HDX2 and Mass FX need to taken on empty stomach? or with a meal?

I will add i workout at like 6pm on the weekdays.
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You may want to think about moving your prewo cap of HX2 to your bedtime dose (2 caps before bed). That way your body will mega produce test while you are asleep.
 
jim623 said:
You may want to think about moving your prewo cap of HX2 to your bedtime dose (2 caps before bed). That way your body will mega produce test while you are asleep.
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Sinner what u think about this idea?

Yeah mega test and gh :) gotta love that combo going to run for 30 days and see if all good go another 30 for max results.
 
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