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Squats on Squats on Squats. Journey to 500lbs!

Rodja said:
It seems like everyone has a different wrapping style. I just start below my patella with two revolutions and then start working my up and cranking down each revolution. I usually tuck the wrap facing up on the final revolution. When you roll up your wraps, are they tightly wound or loose?
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Forgot I had this of me wrapping:
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Any idea if that would be "bad" at all?

I keep mine loose when stowed but I'll pre-stretched/wound and rolled when I go to wrap.
 
Sean1332 said:
Forgot I had this of me wrapping: Invalid Link Removed Any idea if that would be "bad" at all? I keep mine loose when stowed but I'll pre-stretched/wound and rolled when I go to wrap.
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I personally don't like how that style of wrap feels. It feels like it rotates my patella unless I flex my quad to where it cramps. I'm still playing around with my raw wrap as the stance and forces will be different. When I go close stance, I wrap put more of the wrap around the patella tendon instead of the knee joint itself since I feel like it alters how I break at the knee. Today, though, was more of my gear style wrap. I'll likely switch to the Titaniums soon instead of the Grippers.
 
Rodja said:
I personally don't like how that style of wrap feels. It feels like it rotates my patella unless I flex my quad to where it cramps. I'm still playing around with my raw wrap as the stance and forces will be different. When I go close stance, I wrap put more of the wrap around the patella tendon instead of the knee joint itself since I feel like it alters how I break at the knee. Today, though, was more of my gear style wrap. I'll likely switch to the Titaniums soon instead of the Grippers.
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I definetly have to keep my toes pointed upwards and quad locked in place and X directly over it, otherwise it'll hurt. I'll play around with some other wraps and see. Thanks man.
 
Good discussion in here. I used to X wrap, but it had a tendency to buck me. Now I just spiral.

Bolt, I used to have the calf issues when I wrapped bottom up, now I wrap top down and have no issues. I don't get a lot of wrap below the knee, just half a wrap below whatever the **** that lowest protrusion on the anterior knee is called. My wild guess is patellar tendon. Anywho, just barely below that.

Some basic stuff, make sure your quad is flexed while wrapping and also be sure to dorsiflex the whole time. How do you wrap, anyway?
 
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This is what I tried the other day with my crap first attempt. r_jorg does one similar to that, using a lwrist strap to pull through the tie-off. When I wore the Metal wraps a few weeks ago, I used the shoestring trick, which was pretty cool.
 
Sean1332 said:
Forgot I had this of me wrapping: Invalid Link Removed Any idea if that would be "bad" at all? I keep mine loose when stowed but I'll pre-stretched/wound and rolled when I go to wrap.
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that looks painful!!! I've never wrapped (yet) but I can see what Rodja was saying about how it looks like it will hurt the patella. Until I get more well versed, I think I'll keep my wraps going straight down with the final wrap coming up back to the top... Seems like a basic sports wrap, but I think that'll be a good start. B
 
I just spiral now as I suck at x wraps. I like starting at the top and tying it off back at the top on the way up. It makes it super easy to undo as well as I just pull one half the knot and it starts to unwind.
 
Sean1332 said:
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This is what I tried the other day with my crap first attempt. r_jorg does one similar to that, using a lwrist strap to pull through the tie-off. When I wore the Metal wraps a few weeks ago, I used the shoestring trick, which was pretty cool.
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EDIT: Donnie uses that scissor wrap like in the video except the scissors are way smaller and after each scissor, he goes back and puts one straight across, if that makes sense.

And the needle nose pliers to pull the wrap through at maximum tightness with no slack blew my mind.
 
herderdude said:
Good discussion in here. I used to X wrap, but it had a tendency to buck me. Now I just spiral.

Bolt, I used to have the calf issues when I wrapped bottom up, now I wrap top down and have no issues. I don't get a lot of wrap below the knee, just half a wrap below whatever the **** that lowest protrusion on the anterior knee is called. My wild guess is patellar tendon. Anywho, just barely below that.

Some basic stuff, make sure your quad is flexed while wrapping and also be sure to dorsiflex the whole time. How do you wrap, anyway?
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I wrap starting a tad higher than what is shown in that vid below. I usually just spiral up.

I do think I have found a culprit that may or may not have been caused by the wraps. You can't see it in the video, but I have been screwing my feet into the ground and torquing a bit different than usual. Kind of hard to explain, but when I tried that same motion last night I felt it really light up where my lower leg is tight and sore.

Woke up today and it is sore, but not as bad. Will go bench and OHP this afternoon.
 
Don't go getting yourself all busted up before Oct.... I've got lots of tricks/tips I need you and Sean to give me!!!!
U have openers picked yet?
 
So life is all up in the way right now and I don't have a lot of motivation to log my training (sorry :().

Quick notes:
Squats w/ Wraps went great (as seen already on the video posted).
I need my Bench to PR on Bench. The ones at the gym I've been hitting are not up to par and I can't get good position. Either way I've hit the best I have there yet.
Deadlifts felt good. Not a PR or anything, but best in awhile. The volume of them killed me though (still sore today).
Today I PRd on everything (Squats w/ Chains, Touch n Go Bench, and Close Grip Floor Press). It was the last time I'll be Squatting in the rack for awhile as I move Saturday and don't have a home to take it to (so my parents get it...ha! They'll be the most diesel people in the neighborhood now).

Vid of the Squat and Bench below. The chain hit weird on the first rep so you'll see me look at it funny. Last rep is high, oh well. Bench felt good, but I am feeling a little beat up with the volume this week.
[video=youtube;zz5mN2JzJf8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz5mN2JzJf8[/video]
[video=youtube;ar0qyabT7AY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar0qyabT7AY[/video]

This is the week I "hit" minimums for openers. It is triples on comp lifts so that gives me what I plan to start with. Probably 445/235-240/410-415.
 
rob112 said:
Lifts are looking very smooth :thumbsup:
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Thanks man! Deads with chains went well too!

I'm currently in my new place, no internet until Tuesday tho (shoot me). I did hook up an antenna to the TV so I could watch football last night and today though haha

I PRd on chain deadlift and 2-board on Friday. ~255lbs for 4 on the board! :D
 
liftandswim said:
How you liking your new place?
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Solid. First place I'll ever have been at without a roommate haha

Not too big but I don't need a ton of room and I like the area.
 
Wrivest said:
Living alone is the cats a$$ bro!!! Where u at anyway?
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Wow totally let this thread die. Oops. In MD now.


So to update I will not be competing in Boston in a week or so. New job and can't get off (blah blah blah). Got depressed about it training wise (not life wise...life is pretty awesome right now lol) and my lifts have sucked for a couple weeks. Things seemed to have gotten back on track and I PRd on Wrapped Squats on Monday hitting 445 for a triple. Killed some chain squats today (personal best) and had the most awkward bench work up sets today (thought I was doing x 4, did two working sets, then saw I was supposed to do x 3 so took two more to hit my top set) but hit an easy triple with 240lbs (personal best again).

Wraps (445lbs x 3 @9):
[video=youtube;51x_f2SG6H8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51x_f2SG6H8[/video]

Chains (345lbs + 80lbs x 4 @8.5):
[video=youtube;XgKRdl0-FHg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgKRdl0-FHg[/video]

Still trying to get used to walking out on the squat stands (I've got an extra small step or two) because those weird little safeties that stick out bother me. :lol:
 
Good work man! Sucks that you have to miss your meet.. I'm moving myself, between that and vacation and going on a work trip tomorrow, been dam busy.. It's been fun but kinda stressful. I would take a cutting torch to those useless safety bars...
 
capo180 said:
Good work man! Sucks that you have to miss your meet.. I'm moving myself, between that and vacation and going on a work trip tomorrow, been dam busy.. It's been fun but kinda stressful. I would take a cutting torch to those useless safety bars...
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Ya been pretty busy and completely dropped this log. OOPS!

So I did a mock meet today. This week was the worst deload every (I had a bunch of crazy stuff to do that ruined my taper and made me sore haha), but I still PRd.

I tweaked my glute on 480lbs with the second Squat attempt. I died out on 500lbs (dang it!) and almost called the mock meet there (my whole low back tightened up and I got pretty pissed). I manned up and went 2/3 on Bench hitting 250lbs but missed 265lbs. Then I went 3/3 on Deadlifts finishing with 470lbs (which actually moved very well). I am drained, but hit 1200lbs for a total, which has been a goal for awhile. That is just under 200lbs added to my total in ~17 months since doing Reactive Training Systems work. :)
 
Congrats man! Crazy progress in such a short time.

I bet in a real meet scenario the adrenaline would have been a little higher. All the lifts would have been 10-20lbs heavier.
 
liftandswim said:
Congrats man! Crazy progress in such a short time.

I bet in a real meet scenario the adrenaline would have been a little higher. All the lifts would have been 10-20lbs heavier.
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Definitely. This is actually the first Squat I have missed in, well, I honestly can't remember haha!

Usually I die out by Deads on Mock Meets (not much adrenaline and hard to get amped for that final pull), but with no grip issues I didn't have a problem pulling 470lbs. I really really really wish I could have competed, because competition is always so much more fun than a mock meet, but I made progress so I am happy.

Now I just need to re-focus on what is next. I think I am going to use a BodPod on Tuesday to get my body fat % (I'll have free access this week at work) too. :D
 
Nice mock meet. Don't be too bummed about the misses. This is why we have test days. We need to see what to attack next cycle. Seven for nine is never a bad day. Congrats on taking the next milestone in your total, as well. You're sneaking up on that elite total!
 
herderdude said:
Nice mock meet. Don't be too bummed about the misses. This is why we have test days. We need to see what to attack next cycle. Seven for nine is never a bad day. Congrats on taking the next milestone in your total, as well. You're sneaking up on that elite total!
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Thanks man. I'm not too bummed, just kinda funny that my training cycle had me feeling like Squats and Bench had the most progress, yet Deadlifts went the best. :lol:

I know what I need to do. Need some serious upper back work, my aerobic base is garbage, and I need to work more to make more money to eat more (I'll admit I've slacked and dropped to a couple pounds the last couple weeks...blah).
 
nice little mock meet man. those couple pounds are why you missed that squat. just kidding, you'll get it next time for sure.
 
Solid mock meet! Hit some nice numbers Bolt. 1200 is the milestone I am aiming for as we'll right now. Again, nice work :thumbsup:
 
Thanks guys. Still getting used to lifting at the new place, but starting to get more comfortable.

I'm actually sore right now (more than usual for a meet/mock meet), but not too bad overall.
 
Ok guys gonna try to get back to logging a bit. Training will be "different" for awhile. Some basic RTS elements will be the spine of the new training, but I am going to be focusing on increasing my aerobic base and building my "base" a bit more. This week in general is gonna look funky as I do some "testing" to find out how much my conditioning blows, see where I am at, and just have some fun. This will be my own programming and with the work of another guy I respect, but Mike T won't be coaching me again until I can find a meet to actually train for (I highly recommend his services, but after moving and not having a huge income at the moment until work picks up I am cutting back on all finances for awhile).

Today went like:

Warm Up (If you are familiar with Darkside Strength from their JTS stuff it is a blueprint from them...I can give more detail if anyone cares)

1a) Build up to relatively easy single (@8.5-9) on Beltless Squats: Top Set = 405lbs
1b) Drop to 70% (~285lbs) for max repetitions in 2 minutes: 18 reps (aka I thought I'd die)
2a) Build up to easy x5 (@8) Close Grip Bench: Top set 185lbs x 5
2b) Drop ~10% (170lbs) 3 sets x 8 reps
3a) Bent Over Row 3 sets x 10 reps
3b) Deadbugs 3 sets x 5/5 reps

405lbs Single
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Not too bad, but my ability to rep things out sucks. Not sore or too beat up from Saturday either.

So right now and for the next 3-4 months training will be quite different and I don't really plan to really "push" the strength work, but using RPE I'll take what is there. This month will be pretty much belt-less on everything. Tomorrow I'll be hitting some stuff I haven't done in AWHILE (Max single on weighted pull-ups and weighted dips) after I hit a relatively tough Deadlift Single belt-less and do the 70% on that (or maybe not haha), most likely ending with a test on the rower to test some anaerobic abilities.

So basically this week is gonna SUCK. :)

Oh and hopefully I'll get a BodPod reading tomorrow to see how frail I am. ;)
 
I like the plan, man.

Edit:

What's the reasoning behind wanting to build your aerobic/anaerobic capabilities? Thinking it'll translate to better training aka more gains?
 
liftandswim said:
I like the plan, man.

Edit:

What's the reasoning behind wanting to build your aerobic/anaerobic capabilities? Thinking it'll translate to better training aka more gains?
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Well I want to mostly build my Aerobic capabilities/base. That should help subsequent recovery between sets (and hopefully attempts at a meet). The anaerobic work is more because 1) I want to try something different for a different challenge, to keep things fresh 2) hopefully it can spur some increased muscle growth 3) I hate how I can demolish 4 plates on squat right now, but any repeated efforts at even moderate reps makes me feel stupid.

:o

Wrivest said:
Looking fwd to the new stuff! I will steal ideas for sure!!
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Thanks! Go ahead! I'll steal from you too. ;)
 
You have a strong pool of knowledge to pull from so I look forward to what you are going to do and how it works out for you :bro fist:
 
rob112 said:
You have a strong pool of knowledge to pull from so I look forward to what you are going to do and how it works out for you :bro fist:
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haha :brofist: Thanks!

In truth some of the testing and conditioning stuff I'll be looking at I am getting help from someone else with. Smart dude, so I am excited, but also afraid due to my fear of reps/running/rowing/anything over 10s. ;)
 
bolt10 said:
haha :brofist: Thanks! In truth some of the testing and conditioning stuff I'll be looking at I am getting help from someone else with. Smart dude, so I am excited, but also afraid due to my fear of reps/running/rowing/anything over 10s. ;)
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I know that fear all. Too. Well.

:D
 
I'll post BodPod documentation later........lets just say I have to make some adjustments to get more food in. :o

The first thing I thought when I read it was "crap Herder is gonna tell me to go eat a burger (with extra bacon and cheese)".

Then the first thing my boss said to me when she saw the results was "Damn you need to go eat a burger".

I almost died laughing.

Be back later with the picture...don't hold your breath. :eek:
 
Sean1332 said:
lol awesome!

are those worth going to? there's one on the base I live on
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I mean I got it for free so I figured what the heck. I'll post the pick when I get back from work, but it gave other data like some caloric intake guides (RMR) as well. They aren't gonna be perfect (you'll laugh at how low it said my body fat % was lol), but I plan to try and use it again after this next 12 weeks of gaining to see how my body comp changes. :)
 
1) I did feel I am really lean, but this confirms it.
2) I thought it'd read low and say like 6%, but this is just funny.
3) Inb4 if I lost more weight I'd have a -% (because I am not bodybuilder competition lean).
4) I promise I am buying a hamburger to eat soon. ;)

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It says I am unhealthy and should consult a professional.

I swear though I have just been lazy and not eating enough and it all melted off. I plan to hit 170-175 in the next 3-4 months so you all better hold me to it. :)
 
PS already had 2500 kcals today, about to drink 75g carbs with my Amino IV then down at least another 1000kcals tonight. :o
 
rob112 said:
Hot damn!

What's your carb choice with the aminoIV?
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I am a cheapo right now so just Gatorade powder from the biggest tub they sell. :lol:

It hasn't wrecked my gut yet so idk if I'll swing for any of the "designer" carbs anytime soon.

Ok guys today was death:

1a) Build up to relatively easy single (@8.5-9) on Beltless DL: Top Set = 425lbs
1b) Drop to 70% (~295lbs) for max repetitions in 2 minutes: 23 reps TnG + Straps (My legs and back were telling me game over after this)
2a) Build up to max weighted pull-up: 105lbs added weight (Think that is a PR)
2b) Build up to max weighted ring dip: 105lbs (could have done more but ran out of time and the rings are definitely weird)

Did some conditioning (running, KB swings, Abs etc.) as well, but the exacts aren't really important, more aiming for certain energy system work. I will probably be doing a rowing (500m sprint rest 90s 500m again) test this weekend and will probably die. The end.

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No burger (just telling the truth), but I have a bunch of taco meet and taco stuff I am about to devour right now. :D
 
3.1%!!!! Jeez dude. I think the bodybuilding forum is a few clicks away from here!
Lookin shredded as fûk tho man, good for you! Hey, as long as you feel good, can't be that bad, right?!?
 
Wrivest said:
3.1%!!!! Jeez dude. I think the bodybuilding forum is a few clicks away from here!
Lookin shredded as fûk tho man, good for you! Hey, as long as you feel good, can't be that bad, right?!?
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I mean I can't literally be 3%, but it definitely means I am sub 10 and probably 8ish for true levels (not the bro estimates you get online :o).

Ya honestly I can tell performance isn't "optimal" and could tell the last several weeks, but stress, moving, new job, not eating enough, will all do that. Still doing quite well in the gym so not really upset. :)

capo180 said:
3% jeez haha. nice work there, sounds like a rough day. +105 on a pull up/dip is insane.
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Ya wish I had film. Want to see how bad/if form really broke. Pretty cool though considering I haven't been doing a ton of pull ups or even done weights in probably a year.
 
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