Sparkss journey to recovery

[hairygrandpa]

*cough hairygrandpa cough*
How's everything feeling, HG? I know you mentioned something about switching NSAID's, was your rehab work more productive this time around?

Yes, I'm making progress. The indomethacin works great. EOD I do 90 minutes rehab with about 12 different exercises, finishing with cardio, abs and body weight back exercises.
Sparkss, looking good! I can see gains!

 

[Sparkss]

Yes, I'm making progress. The indomethacin works great. EOD I do 90 minutes rehab with about 12 different exercises, finishing with cardio, abs and body weight back exercises.

That is awesome news!

and thanks for the compliment.

 

[Sparkss]

8/10 Rest Day

For a couple of reasons. It as my daughters first day of school and I wanted to be able to drop her off/walk her in (and that was right in the middle of when I normally work out). Even if I had not planned on taking a rest day I woke in the middle of the night with my head all stuffed up and major congestion plus a sore throat (already) from all of the drainage. I did not sleep for crap that night and woke groggy still.


8/11 Back/Biceps

Bent Over Rows......................105/20, 145/12, 155*/10, 8, 9
Landmines................................70*/20, 20, 20 (using a 1-2-3, contract-hold-lower, cadence)
1 Arm DB Rows (flat bench).....70*/10, 10, 10, 10
Lat Pulldowns..............Black Band/15, 15, 15, 15
..Superset
Back Hyper Extensions.............15/25, 25, 21, 18
Spider Curls..............................55/15, 12, 11, 10
Standing Alternating
Hammer DB Curls...................30/14, 14, 16, 15

Last night was not much better, but I still got up and worked out. It was not a bad workout, but I kept running out of gas. I was fine so long as I was moving the weights, but in between sets I was lagging big time.

My Invictus arrived yesterday, so I dosed it for the first time last night, then again this morning. We will see if that helps with the visceral fat like others have reported. I measured my midline this morning, just below my belly button, at the "widest" point, taking all of the love handles into the measurement. I came in at 34.25". At the end of 4 weeks (of Invictus application) I will re-measure to see where I end up.

Still contemplating my first PH cycle. Not sure what I will end up running. It all comes down to PCT and what to stock.

Not a lot to add tonight, been a long crazy day at work and my allergies/sinuses have made it even more challenging and exhausting *sigh*.

 

[sparks2012]

8/10 Rest Day

For a couple of reasons. It as my daughters first day of school and I wanted to be able to drop her off/walk her in (and that was right in the middle of when I normally work out). Even if I had not planned on taking a rest day I woke in the middle of the night with my head all stuffed up and major congestion plus a sore throat (already) from all of the drainage. I did not sleep for crap that night and woke groggy still.


8/11 Back/Biceps

Bent Over Rows......................105/20, 145/12, 155*/10, 8, 9
Landmines................................70*/20, 20, 20 (using a 1-2-3, contract-hold-lower, cadence)
1 Arm DB Rows (flat bench).....70*/10, 10, 10, 10
Lat Pulldowns..............Black Band/15, 15, 15, 15
..Superset
Back Hyper Extensions.............15/25, 25, 21, 18
Spider Curls..............................55/15, 12, 11, 10
Standing Alternating
Hammer DB Curls...................30/14, 14, 16, 15

Last night was not much better, but I still got up and worked out. It was not a bad workout, but I kept running out of gas. I was fine so long as I was moving the weights, but in between sets I was lagging big time.

My Invictus arrived yesterday, so I dosed it for the first time last night, then again this morning. We will see if that helps with the visceral fat like others have reported. I measured my midline this morning, just below my belly button, at the "widest" point, taking all of the love handles into the measurement. I came in at 34.25". At the end of 4 weeks (of Invictus application) I will re-measure to see where I end up.

Still contemplating my first PH cycle. Not sure what I will end up running. It all comes down to PCT and what to stock.

Not a lot to add tonight, been a long crazy day at work and my allergies/sinuses have made it even more challenging and exhausting *sigh*.

Important part is that you sill got up and did it! Whenever I'm sick, I try and "sweat it out". Generally, while I'm lifting is the only time I feel halfway decent. I'm a supporter of more holistic healing methods, so I don't really ever take NSAID's, narcs, or any medicine except for a tab or two of airborne if I feel a cold coming on. Staying active and eating right (although the "right" way has only come recently with this cut I'm on) does more for me than meds normally would.

 

[Sparkss]

Important part is that you sill got up and did it! Whenever I'm sick, I try and "sweat it out". Generally, while I'm lifting is the only time I feel halfway decent. I'm a supporter of more holistic healing methods, so I don't really ever take NSAID's, narcs, or any medicine except for a tab or two of airborne if I feel a cold coming on. Staying active and eating right (although the "right" way has only come recently with this cut I'm on) does more for me than meds normally would.

Yea, I rarely use NSAID's too. The hardest part of yesterday was the congestion left me a little winded, which made the exercise harder (not enough oxygen). On the plus side I went up in weights on a couple of exercises and in general the motions all felt good.

I chose the flat bench for the 1 arm DB rows because all of my other rows are more or less at an angle. I usually do the DB rows standing behind the bench (set at an incline) with my hand on the back. but since I have no row equipment I wanted at least 1 row to target my lower lats, so I had to row in a motion perpendicular to my body. If that makes sense. Even though some of those sets look like I was hitting a target rep (10, 15, or whatever) most of those were actually to failure, or to 1 rep before failure, or as I like to say to 1 rep before sloppy (when my form starts to suffer from fatigue during a set).

I weighted myself this morning, as I normally do, immediately upon rising, but right after any morning bathroom visit. I came in at 171.8. Although I feel relatively lean (can see a 1-pack, outline of the abs, but still with the love handles and a bit thick around the belly though).

 

[sparks2012]

Yea, I rarely use NSAID's too. The hardest part of yesterday was the congestion left me a little winded, which made the exercise harder (not enough oxygen). On the plus side I went up in weights on a couple of exercises and in general the motions all felt good.

I chose the flat bench for the 1 arm DB rows because all of my other rows are more or less at an angle. I usually do the DB rows standing behind the bench (set at an incline) with my hand on the back. but since I have no row equipment I wanted at least 1 row to target my lower lats, so I had to row in a motion perpendicular to my body. If that makes sense. Even though some of those sets look like I was hitting a target rep (10, 15, or whatever) most of those were actually to failure, or to 1 rep before failure, or as I like to say to 1 rep before sloppy (when my form starts to suffer from fatigue during a set).

I weighted myself this morning, as I normally do, immediately upon rising, but right after any morning bathroom visit. I came in at 171.8. Although I feel relatively lean (can see a 1-pack, outline of the abs, but still with the love handles and a bit thick around the belly though).

I like doing DB rows, or in your case the Power Blocks, using an incline bench. I'll put my knee in the crook and rest my arm that's not working that set on the incline. I still get the "horizontal feel" but I'm able to get a better stretch on the movement while still keeping the rest of my back in a neutral position. Also, it helps alleviate any shoulder pain I might experience from having a lot of weight put on the joint if I used a flat bench. On an incline, I feel that I'm supporting most of the weight with my trunk yet still able to isolate the lats effectively. Maybe this will help with your horizontal row conundrum. One thing I always told myself when trying to put on mass was to not worry about losing the appearance of abs. As long as you don't go overboard, you get them back in a few weeks depending on your calories and cardio, but I ended up going overboard and putting on more fat than I anticipated...lol.

 

[Sparkss]

Thanks for the tip, I will try that next back day.

Today sucked. Work reared its ugly head in a catastrophic way. Fire drill after fire drill (the corporate kind, not an actual "leave the building" fire drill). I will post the pathetic leg workout I managed to squeeze in later tonight or tomorrow. As it stands I need to work in some calf raises into tomorrow's workout. *sigh*

 

[lifted67]

Cmon sparkss, tomorrow will be a better day brother. Just remember, no matter how measly you think a workout is you're still out lifting the waste on the couch doing reps of MT Dew curls and Doritos extensions.

 

[sparks2012]

Everyone has "those days" buddy, don't dwell on it. As lifted said, it's better than not doing anything. I myself need to add more calf work too, you're not alone there!

 

[Sparkss]

Thanks guys. I am hoping for a better workout tomorrow. Being the weekend at least work won't get in my way .

I have a sample of Conqu3r Unleashed here that I am going to try out tomorrow. I hear alot of people talk about how great CU is. I will get to find out for myself! I just don't know if I will go through Ragnorok taste withdrawals. LOL

I have been toying with changing up my workout to a different than 4 day split. Currently I do shoulders/traps, chest/tris, back/bis and legs. I am thinking that back and legs go together and maybe chest and shoulders (moving the rear delt workout to back day, versus focusing on it during my shoulder workout now). I have seen some similar splits documented, with a heavy then light days for those combined body parts.

Here is my workout from today *sigh*
8/12 Legs

Deadlift...........115/20, 155*/10, 10, 10
Squats...........155*/12, 12, 12
Lunges.............20/12, 12

That is as far as I got. As it was I knew I had limited time (but not as limited as it turned out) so I was shooting for a quick but intense workout, short sets, low volume overall. I would have liked a bit more deadlifts and squats, and would have, had I know that was all I was going to get in today. I never got to my calf raises at all, so I will add those in tomorrow at the end of my workout, or maybe super set them with some other exercise. I have been considering doubling up on calf raises anyways, so I can now think about which (non-leg) day they best fit into my workout.

 

[Sparkss]

8/13 Shoulders/Traps (plus calves "make ups")

Side Lateral Raise.....................15/20, 25/12, 12,12
Standing Military Press................45/15, 65/10, 75/10
Front Incline Dumbbell Raise...........20/14, 13, 11
Seated Dumbbell Press..................20/14, 25/12, 30/10
Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise.......20/12, 12, 12
Dumbbell Incline Row...................40/16, 50/14, 60/9
DB Incline Shrugs......................60/15, 70/14, 15
Upright BB Rows........................65/16, 85/10, 105/5
Standing Calf Raises...................60/15, 70/14, 14


While drinking my pre-shake (more about that in a minute) I was browsing the exercise DB on bodybuilding.com and as if by fate, this article/exercise was posted 3 days ago.

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I have been increasing in stability (overall core + L4,L5,S1 bulging discs have not been bothering me lately), strength (Shoulder and overall), mobility (specifically shoulder) and confidence, so I gave it a shot today, even though it included some exercises that I a still timid about due to my shoulder (like the military press). But I followed it all as closely as I could, exercise, rep and weight pyramids. I did have to lower the weights for many of the exercises due to how well they isolate the muscles and reduce the ability to recruit, not to mention the whole premise is to pre-fatigue, which factors into my lifting weight capacity. I already feel a bit of a "burn" in my shoulders.

I also noticed that with the incline DB shrug that I felt more of a burn while doing it, than the standing DB shrugs I have been doing. It felt good (painful, but not in an injurous or impingement way), just different. I think that those are here to stay in my routine.

I tried my sample of Conqu3r Unleashed pre. The flavor was Krushed Kandy. I am not sure where they got the name from, but it didn't taste like any candy I ever ate LOL. It was a little rough at first, but once I got going I was able to finish the shake w/o problem. I noticed that it had 1g of agmatine in it, so I added 2 tbs of oats and 1 tbs of hydro whey to try to kick start the pump (especially due to the nutrient partitioning effects of the agmatine). That is the main ingredient in SlinMAX, and also a great supp to take before bed for leaning out a little, and optimizing nutrient absorption, but 1g is a pretty hefty dose. The pump and energy was good today. I was finished and decided to add in the upright rows to really hammer my traps (because I had the time and also the energy/gas to keep going). The 4g of citrulline I am sure helped (not cit-mal, just cit). If I recall with a 2:1 formulation cit-mal is best around 6 g, I haven't broken out the calculator to see how much cit is in 6g of 2:1 cit-mal, but mental math puts it at 4g, which matches what is in CU.

I had an order from OL get cancelled due to it being a closeout and they ran out of stock, so they are sending me some more samples. Hopefully I will get some different CU flavors in that sample pack, or at the very least will be able to test CU across a couple of days/workouts and see if today was fluke or if CU might be my next pre to try once my Rag runs out.

 

[sparks2012]

Good to see you're feeling more confident about your lifts! Awesome workout, pre-exhausting the delts is tough mentally for me because it feels like it lowers my weight on presses so much but I feel it is a good strategy. Probably a bit safer to do as well since the added weight during presses isn't necessary after burning them out prior. I've yet to try any OL supps but they're on my list to try. If the product works, then the flavor isn't a huge deal for me, it's just an added bonus

 

[Sparkss]

I've yet to try any OL supps but they're on my list to try. If the product works, then the flavor isn't a huge deal for me, it's just an added bonus

So far just the Ep1c TD, and now the Conqu3r sample. Although the other samples arrived today. They hooked me up big time. This was for that order that they ran out of stock on and took a couple of days to notify me that it was cancelled then even longer to refund my $$. But they hooked me up, 6 samples each of Conqu3r Unleashed, Ignit3 and Hyrdo3. So I will get to see how an entire week of CU feels like .

I also agree that results will outweight taste, so long as the taste is not so heinous that I can't choke down the supp. There have been many in my years that I had to "clothespin my nose" to even be able to shotgun the drink. This one is no where near that. Not really a bad flavor, just not something I would crave, like the Rag flavor. Cu has sort of an "earthy" flavor (not what I expected for something labelled "Krushed Kandy" LOL).

I am already feeling the impacts from today's shoulder routine, so it was definitely a "good" workout. I also managed to get through it pretty quickly. Probably because even though it had more exercises than my normal shoulder workout, the routine called for shorter and fewer sets than I normally shoot for. Still felt good and the way I feel now is proof that I don't need to do such high volume all of the time. The article for the workout even states that it is good for 4 ~ 6 weeks, then time to move on. I will switch back to the high volume after that . Now I need some correspondingly tough chest and back routines I left off legs because due to my equipment I am limited in what exercises I can do, so not much opportunity for a "fresh" workout routine.

 

[Sparkss]

8/14 Back/Bis

Straight-Arm Pulldown..................................50*/15, 100*/15, 15, 15
..Superset
1 Arm DB Rows.............................................50/15, 70/15, 15, 15
Underhand Cable (Band) Pulldowns..........150*/15, 15, 15
Reverse Grip Bent-Over Rows....................125/14, 14, 12, 14
Close-Grip Front Lat Pulldown...................150*/20, 20, 20
BB Curl.........................................................65/15, 15, 14
DB Hammer Holds.......................................15/(5,5,10), 17.5/(5,5,10),20/(5,5,10),(5/5/9)

* These are done using resistance bands. The weight recorded is the stated resistance for the bands. Take these weights with a grain a salt.

I normally do chest after shoulders, but my front delts were so sore this morning I contemplated taking a rest day. Then I looked at my calendar for the week and have 2 "forced" rest days Tuesday and Wednesday due to scheduled meetings that are going to supersede my workouts. So I switched up and moved my back workout to today, and will hit chest/tris tomorrow, then 2 days off (lots of time to recover).

I borrowed this routine from another BB article, swapping in some exercises for the ones I lacked the equipment to do. I also use the reverse facing incline bench that Sparks2012 suggested for the 1 arm rows. It seemed to work well. Although that exercise was part of a superset and my lats were already prefatigued, so those 1 arm rows were especially challenging today. I barely squeezed out the 15 reps).

I tried a new bicep exercise, the hammer hold curl. (#9 in this article : Invalid Link Removed) I got such a pump from this, but did have to go down in weights to finish a set. I have veins popping out all over. I must have been recruiting like a son of a gun because towards the end of the last 2 sets I even saw a vein pop out about 2/3 the way up on of my pectorals, leading over to my shoulder/arm.

 

[Sparkss]

One thing I forgot to mention was that I realized as I was starting my foam rolling that I had forgotten to do my back hyper extensions. So I will add those to tomorrow's workout.

I am not sure how to interpret my body these days. What I mean is that yesterday I was hungry as all get out, and ate like a horse, mostly good, but at some point you just crave some comfort food. Although for me a "cheat" is a handful of chips, or 6 M&Ms (either of those is usually enough to quell any cravings). But in general I ate every 2 (waking) hours yesterday. Either a protein shake, protein bar, or full meal. From morning workout through to bed time. One example that I considered excessive is that about 20~30 minutes after my post-workout shake I went on to eat an entire breakfast muffin (Carrot Nut). Yet I woke up this morning a full pound lighter than I weighed yesterday morning. Although I did take SlinMAX with my larger (carb wise), later in the day, meal. Today was a pretty big appetite day also, so I am not sure what to expect tomorrow morning.

On a side note I have started collecting up my PCT and OCS supplies, slowly but surely .

 

[Sparkss]

8/15 Chest/Tris

Incline Bench...................................................30/20, 40/15, 12, 12
Decline Bench..................................................40/15, 15, 15
Flat Bench........................................................40/15, 14, 15
Close Grip BB pushups (From Jeff C)..............11, 12, 11
Cross Bench Dips.............................................16, 16, 16
..Superset
Back Hyper Extensions.....................................20/18, 18, 18
Incline DB Pullover............................................35/12, 12, 12
..Superset
Incline DB Tricep Extensions............................25/12, 12, 11

Not an over the top workout, but not bad. Kind of went for "short and sweet". I decide to take the approach of hitting the upper and lower parts of my pectorals prior to hitting the flat bench. The effect was I was already sore and tight by the time I started the flat press and had to go lighter than before, which is fine as I could still feel it in my pecs during the press. When I do the DB presses I get as much stretch at the bottom as I can and when I press I let the natural arc bring the DBs together at the top. I use a roughly 45 degree hand position, which feels more natural and comfortable for my shoulder. Basically half way between hammer and I guess you would all it neutral (overhand) grip.

I have been fighting allergies for the last couple of days and my sleep has suffered for it. I was pretty tired again this morning but pushed through. About half way through I got my second wind. The last superset was because I felt I had more than enough gas to push through it.

3rd day using Conqu3r Unleashed. Still not enamored with the Krushed Kandy flavor, but I can't deny the pump that it gives me. Not a major difference in endurance or strength over Rag (that I could tell), but the pump is pretty noticeable. When I was doing the x-bench dips I saw major vascularity in my shins LOL. Also, but the time I finished my 3 press sets my arms and chest were noticeably tight/pumped. I am going to research what other flavors are available and am planning to switch to CU when my Rag runs out. Then again the Spartan Nutrition pre Kraken looks like it has a pretty good profile, so I may give that a try first, since I know I like CU (as a fall back).

 

[sparks2012]

Nice session, I love the feel of a get in and get out session, especially if you can get a great pump going (which it sounds like you did). I also will tout the effectiveness of DB's and the ability manipulate what grip you use while pressing. The 45 degree angle is far more comfortable on DB's for me than a traditional "overhand" grip. Glad to see it works for you too. Sounds like CU is something I need to look in to. I just ordered some of BSL's Dust V2 today. Their original formula, "Angel Dust", was awesome so I figured I'd give V2 a try. It's a 50/50 shot, either it's better or it's garbage. We'll see soon enough.

 

[Sparkss]

I am pretty sure it is the 1g agmatine + 4g Citrulline giving the pump to CU. Maybe you can see about getting a sample or two to try. There has to be an OL rep around here somewhere LOL. I received my first sample when I ordered an OL product from Nutriverse. Let me know how that Dust v2 works out. I can always be swayed LOL. For the CU I was going to wait for the eventual Nutriverse 20% discount before I ordered it .

 

[Sparkss]

Today was/is a rest day. Took a Claritin-D to try to reign in my allergies, although I read that antihitimines are counter productive for muscle growth goals. I took it anyways as I was at wits end for my sinuses. My appetite is still amped up, despite the antihistimine (the -D ingredient almost always crushes my appetite, which I never complained about before, but not desired when I am trying to bulk up ).

Woke up feeling sore across my chest (and smiled at that fact). I haven't felt this sore for quite some time, so yesterday's workout is definitely one that will stay in my playbook (for now). I also looked pretty "full" across my upper chest, which surprised me. My main weakness in my opinion has been my shoulders/upper chest appearance. Every time I look in the mirror at just the right (or wrong) angle I see the same 130 lb twig I used to be back just out of high school. I don't want to be skinny, I want to be fit (d**nit), or better yet beastly.

Tomorrow (evening), Wednesday, will be 1 week using Invictus. Thursday morning I will weigh in and measure my waist to compare to my #s last week. I am going to try to maintain a weekly measurement frequency while dosing this. Tomorrow is another planned rest day due to work obligations. Although they pushed the meeting start time by an hour and if I wake up an extra 30 minutes early I can fit in a workout now. But I am thinking an extended break (2 days) might be in my long term best interest.

I have ordered a fair bit on my PCT/OCS supplies and hope to have the within the next week or so. I am also watching for sales on the other supps I am planning to employ. Two are from BPS though (Dermacrine for OCS and Sustain Alpha for PCT) *these are only part of the OCS/PCT plan*, and I don't often see sales on those, so I may just pull the trigger on them next week. No rush since I don't plan to start any cycle until after the 1st week in September. Once I have everything lined up I will start talking more about cycle options here. But until I get those "ducks in a row" it would be a bit premature.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Today was/is a rest day. Took a Claritin-D to try to reign in my allergies, although I read that antihitimines are counter productive for muscle growth goals. I took it anyways as I was at wits end for my sinuses. My appetite is still amped up, despite the antihistimine (the -D ingredient almost always crushes my appetite, which I never complained about before, but not desired when I am trying to bulk up ).

Woke up feeling sore across my chest (and smiled at that fact). I haven't felt this sore for quite some time, so yesterday's workout is definitely one that will stay in my playbook (for now). I also looked pretty "full" across my upper chest, which surprised me. My main weakness in my opinion has been my shoulders/upper chest appearance. Every time I look in the mirror at just the right (or wrong) angle I see the same 130 lb twig I used to be back just out of high school. I don't want to be skinny, I want to be fit (d**nit), or better yet beastly.

Tomorrow (evening), Wednesday, will be 1 week using Invictus. Thursday morning I will weigh in and measure my waist to compare to my #s last week. I am going to try to maintain a weekly measurement frequency while dosing this. Tomorrow is another planned rest day due to work obligations. Although they pushed the meeting start time by an hour and if I wake up an extra 30 minutes early I can fit in a workout now. But I am thinking an extended break (2 days) might be in my long term best interest.

I have ordered a fair bit on my PCT/OCS supplies and hope to have the within the next week or so. I am also watching for sales on the other supps I am planning to employ. Two are from BPS though (Dermacrine for OCS and Sustain Alpha for PCT) *these are only part of the OCS/PCT plan*, and I don't often see sales on those, so I may just pull the trigger on them next week. No rush since I don't plan to start any cycle until after the 1st week in September. Once I have everything lined up I will start talking more about cycle options here. But until I get those "ducks in a row" it would be a bit premature.

Dermacrine is an awesome product. Still using it on-and off with my TRT (cruise). Used Sustain in the past but did not feel anything, this statement doesn't mean much as there are a number of supps I don't respond to either. I jumped on the pre-sale promo for Virtus-Invictus too, can always use a cortisol and e control.
As a natty, I would give Follidrone a try, the logs on this are encouraging.

 

[Sparkss]

Dermacrine is an awesome product. Still using it on-and off with my TRT (cruise). Used Sustain in the past but did not feel anything, this statement doesn't mean much as there are a number of supps I don't respond to either. I jumped on the pre-sale promo for Virtus-Invictus too, can always use a cortisol and e control.
As a natty, I would give Follidrone a try, the logs on this are encouraging.

I am 2 1/2 weeks into a Follidrone 2.0 / AlphaMax XT run. It is treating me well. Personally I liked the ABE / Ep1c run a little better, but it is still early for FD and AlphaMax.

I would like to jump on the Virtus pre, but have to hold off a bit. But I do want Virtus as part of my PCT. I also have a bottle of Invictus set aside specifically for PCT (if needed). A lot of what I am stocking up on for the PCT and OCS are "just in case". Here is what I am working on getting my hands on, or already have:

Pharma:
Clomid
Nolva
Aromasin
Raloxifene

OTC:
Sustain Alpha
Dermacrine
AlphaMax XT
Virtus
Invictus

And no, I do not expect nor intend to use all of those. I will likely only need a small fraction of any of that for PCT, but I would feel better having it on hand before I even start. I also plan pre-cycle, post-cycle and post-pct blood work. If something comes up and I cannot afford any of that, then i just will delay the start of the cycle until I can. Yes, I am approaching this very cautiously.

I do have another bottle of ABE and Ep1c and those may be run in parallel with my PCT to help maintain my intensity and gains. But that will be more of a judgement call when the time comes.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I am 2 1/2 weeks into a Follidrone 2.0 / AlphaMax XT run. It is treating me well. Personally I liked the ABE / Ep1c run a little better, but it is still early for FD and AlphaMax.

I would like to jump on the Virtus pre, but have to hold off a bit. But I do want Virtus as part of my PCT. I also have a bottle of Invictus set aside specifically for PCT (if needed). A lot of what I am stocking up on for the PCT and OCS are "just in case". Here is what I am working on getting my hands on, or already have:

Pharma:
Clomid
Nolva
Aromasin
Raloxifene

OTC:
Sustain Alpha
Dermacrine
AlphaMax XT
Virtus
Invictus

And no, I do not expect nor intend to use all of those. I will likely only need a small fraction of any of that for PCT, but I would feel better having it on hand before I even start. I also plan pre-cycle, post-cycle and post-pct blood work. If something comes up and I cannot afford any of that, then i just will delay the start of the cycle until I can. Yes, I am approaching this very cautiously.

I do have another bottle of ABE and Ep1c and those may be run in parallel with my PCT to help maintain my intensity and gains. But that will be more of a judgement call when the time comes.

You are very well prepared! Hahaha, you are evolving into a supp-junky! <--- joking

 

[Sparkss]

You are very well prepared! Hahaha, you are evolving into a supp-junky! <--- joking

Likely only going to need the Clomid out of that entire huge *ss list. But the others have benefits. The dermacrine may help fight fatigue on cycle and sustain alpha, Invictus and/or AlphaMax XT should help with estro, cortisol and/or test production boost during PCT. So if I am feeling "weak" in any of those areas, or the bloods come back lacking in those areas, I can just pull out the bottle and start dosing.

 

[sparks2012]

Awesome work and research man! Sounds like you're ready to pull the trigger whenever you decide to.

 

[Sparkss]

Awesome work and research man! Sounds like you're ready to pull the trigger whenever you decide to.

Trying to position myself to start the first week in September (Sept 8). I am still lacking a few of those to arrive, but most are already at least ordered, if not already on hand.

Today was another (planned) rest day due to work. Woke refreshed, but still sore across my shoulders and chest. More than I expected. Maybe it is because I am taking this extended (48 hour) break I feel it more with no new "soreness" to distract me from my chest . I weight this morning for giggles (1 day early for my weekly weigh in, and I didn't measure either). I came in at 170.6, but that only tells part of the tale, of course. And I have been eating like a horse the last 4+ days. and am still down a lb from last week. Tomorrow is the "official" week;y weight/measure, plus back to working out (finally ).

 

[Sparkss]

I made up a bunch of pre/post shake mixes today and played a bit with the ratios. Since my intensity (and appetite) has visibly increased I decided to bump my protein and carb intakes.

PWO
Protein.....17g
Carb.........13g
BCAA........5.5g

Intra
Protein.....8g
Carb.........11g
BCAA........4g

Post
Protein.....18.5g
Carb.........15g
BCAA........6g

Night
Protein.....11.5g
Carb.........1g
BCAA........5g

I also eat at least 1 protein bar a day, when I get snackish in the afternoon. Right now I have a small selection of Quest and Killa Carb bars. Plus my normal 4 or 5 "real food" meals.

I am trying to find the tipping point between lean mass gains and fat gains.

On a related note I go through my protein and other bulk supplement powders a lot quicker now LOL

 

[Sparkss]

My #s this morning (after waking/bathroom, before PWO shake or anything else) after 1 week using Invictus (cortisol control TD):

weight...171.8
waist.....<34"
BF%......11.5%

So, the weight fluctuated between 171.8 and 172.0. I don't trust digital scales much these days. The ones I have used appear to be trying to "average" a couple of measurements and one even seems to want to "guess" the current user and average what it just weighed against what that user weighed the last time (from the scale memory). Example, did a test once, with a scale that has a 1/10 lb resolution. weighed in at 165.8 fully dressed. Took of the jeans I was wearing and hopped back on. It jumped around then registered user #1 (me) and reported 165.8. Now I don't expect jeans to weigh that much, but they should have registered at least 1/10 of a lb.

The waist measurement was taken using a MyoTape. It measured in right between 33 3/4" and 34", but close to 34", so I went with that. It is at least a 1/4" reduction from last week, but we will see if next week shows that to be a fluke or a true trend .

The BF% was using a handheld Omron unit. I am guessing I am really closer to 12% or 13% and that it is reading lower because I am a little dehydrated. It was hot last night, but I slept through it and didn't wake to drink water, as I normally do (wake to take a leak and then drink some water before falling back asleep). Plus, I had some foot cramps around 4 AM this morning, which usually means I am a bit dehydrated.

 

[sparks2012]

Too true on the powders running out quicker! I try to not use shakes daily (I typically only use protein for shakes and sometimes cooking, all shakes are 2 scoops, so the tub runs dry pretty quick if I'm doing 2 shakes a day at 2 scoops per shake) and get my macros from whole food. Fairly easy to do for me if I'm working normally but there's always those times where stuff gets crazy and cooking/eating a whole meal isn't practical. I really want to get my BF% checked but I have no ways to do so at the moment, 12-13% isn't bad. I'd estimate I'm somewhere around there as well. Probably not sub-10% yet, but then again I can't measure it so who knows. I could still be at 15%. The only scales I've used recently are the "old" ones with the sliding weights that you have to balance. Was thinking about picking up a digital scale but the measurements on the older ones are consistent enough for me right now. I doubt your waist measurements are a fluke as well, I truly believe you've lost that extra 1/4"

 

[Sparkss]

8/18 Legs

Squats..........................115/20, 155*/15, 15, 15, 15
Deadlifts......................155*/10, 10, 10
Lunges...........................15/12, 12, 12, 12
Standing Calf Raises.....70*/14, 60/15, 15, 15

I did not sleep good last night, despite the A/C is seemed to run a bit hot in the house. I also had a (old, but not expired) sample for 4D Pump pre that I used today. That was a mistake and glad it was only a sample and not a whole tub I had purchased. I checked online reviews before hand and didn't see anything negative. I am pretty sure it raised my blood pressure higher than I would have liked. During the deadlifts I got lightheaded and developed a pretty nasty headache. I had to give myself additional time between sets to let my head and heart settle down. Made for a long protracted (and not particularly intense) workout today. I contemplated ditching the workout but I already did that to leg day last week, and could not justify skipping leg yet again, so I choose to go the longer rest period route.

For calves, the biggest hurdle I run into is grip strength, since I hold the DB while doing the single leg calf raises my grip gives out before my calves. This is one muscle that will definitely benefit from getting into a proper gym (later this year).

 

[Sparkss]

Too true on the powders running out quicker! I try to not use shakes daily (I typically only use protein for shakes and sometimes cooking, all shakes are 2 scoops, so the tub runs dry pretty quick if I'm doing 2 shakes a day at 2 scoops per shake) and get my macros from whole food. Fairly easy to do for me if I'm working normally but there's always those times where stuff gets crazy and cooking/eating a whole meal isn't practical. I really want to get my BF% checked but I have no ways to do so at the moment, 12-13% isn't bad. I'd estimate I'm somewhere around there as well. Probably not sub-10% yet, but then again I can't measure it so who knows. I could still be at 15%. The only scales I've used recently are the "old" ones with the sliding weights that you have to balance. Was thinking about picking up a digital scale but the measurements on the older ones are consistent enough for me right now. I doubt your waist measurements are a fluke as well, I truly believe you've lost that extra 1/4"

Thanks for the encouragement. I am hoping it is a trend. 1/4" in 1 week is pretty big, if it is a true reduction. Although I have read some pretty significant outcomes from others using Invictus, so I will remain positive (until next weeks measure/weigh in ).

One thing I noticed is that my hunger continues to grow. I used to make it an hour or two after finishing my post shake before I was even moderately hungry. Now I am eating again 30 ~ 45 minutes after my post shake (which I take pretty much immediately after I finish lifting/foam rolling). And I stay hungry throughout the day. In general I am eating more and more often. I hate to admit that with that much hunger I am struggling to keep my diet clean.

Been reading up on mK-677 and think it might have a place in my supplement stack, funds permitting. The health and repair ability is very relevant to my situation, plus it appears to be better for older folks than younger ones. It is stated to bring IGF levels "back to healthy youthful levels" (I paraphrased that quote). Not necessarily for PCT, but it could be used during, as part of it, but can be used on cycle.

I am also still waiting on the shipping/tracking #s for a couple of the PCT items I already ordered. While I am not in a huge hurry, since I do not plan to start anything for at least 2.5 more weeks, I would like to at least know when they are arriving and not just have that be a "black box".

Can't wait to see your log for the LG stack too!

 

[sparks2012]

Thanks for the encouragement. I am hoping it is a trend. 1/4" in 1 week is pretty big, if it is a true reduction. Although I have read some pretty significant outcomes from others using Invictus, so I will remain positive (until next weeks measure/weigh in ).

One thing I noticed is that my hunger continues to grow. I used to make it an hour or two after finishing my post shake before I was even moderately hungry. Now I am eating again 30 ~ 45 minutes after my post shake (which I take pretty much immediately after I finish lifting/foam rolling). And I stay hungry throughout the day. In general I am eating more and more often. I hate to admit that with that much hunger I am struggling to keep my diet clean.

Been reading up on mK-677 and think it might have a place in my supplement stack, funds permitting. The health and repair ability is very relevant to my situation, plus it appears to be better for older folks than younger ones. It is stated to bring IGF levels "back to healthy youthful levels" (I paraphrased that quote). Not necessarily for PCT, but it could be used during, as part of it, but can be used on cycle.

I am also still waiting on the shipping/tracking #s for a couple of the PCT items I already ordered. While I am not in a huge hurry, since I do not plan to start anything for at least 2.5 more weeks, I would like to at least know when they are arriving and not just have that be a "black box".

Can't wait to see your log for the LG stack too!

TBH, I haven't seen much on Invictus but to be fair I haven't really looked for anything on it either. Hopefully your run with it is successful, but it appears to already be on that path anyway

As far as appetite goes, when I first started my cut (the "for real" cut, not the "I'll throw cardio in once every 2 weeks" cut lol) my appetite was crazy. I was used to eating 1k+ cal meals, not all of them healthy. The junk cravings were the worst, and still are if and when I get them. They've seemed to calm down now that my stomach has shrunk down and is used to being "full" after the smaller meals. However, I recently started getting up earlier, drinking water/CM and then black coffee before cardio then taking my breakfast to work eating 1/2-1 hour after I get in, having a smaller "meal" (usually 1 can of Tyson chicken breast or a "Fit Crunch" protein bar) about 3 hours later, then eating lunch 2-3 hours after that. With the extra meal, my metabolism has ramped up apparently, I'm much hungrier way sooner than if I only ate breakfast and then lunch 5-6 hours later. If you're progressively eating more meals, I can see how being hungry more often is a thing for you. I agree 100% that those cravings are sometimes hard to keep "clean".

As far as the MK-677, it could be used as OCS to help stunt any hair loss issues. I read that earlier today actually, so that may be of some use to you if you are prone to hair loss or are worried about it. The stuff I've used is mild, and I noticed no negative sides and I expect the same from the LG kit I'm about to run, but I'm also early 20's so take that with a grain of salt too.

 

[hairygrandpa]

MK wasn't a good experience for me, it interfered too much with my sleep, made me hungry and bloated me seriously.
Can't attest to it's healing properties either...
Well, for everyone it's different.

 

[sparks2012]

MK wasn't a good experience for me, it interfered too much with my sleep, made me hungry and bloated me seriously.
Can't attest to it's healing properties either...
Well, for everyone it's different.

The article I read mentioned none of that. True, everyone is different, but I'd take evidence from your experience over an article online any day.

 

[hairygrandpa]

The article I read mentioned none of that. True, everyone is different, but I'd take evidence from your experience over an article online any day.

I enjoyed vivid dreams on MK at the beginning. Waking up with numbness in my hands came at a higher dose, like 50mg/day. Sleep was cut by half to 4-5 hours. Bloat began after 2-3 month and got really bad.
To be fair I must mention I ramp the dose up to 80mg for awhile when most sides became more prominent.

 

[FireTitan]

Can I get in on this??

 

[Sparkss]

Can I get in on this??

FT, you are always welcome! I was going to tag you in when I got ready to dive into my first cycle in a couple of weeks. You beat me to it now

 

[Sparkss]

MK wasn't a good experience for me, it interfered too much with my sleep, made me hungry and bloated me seriously.
Can't attest to it's healing properties either...
Well, for everyone it's different.

The article I read mentioned none of that. True, everyone is different, but I'd take evidence from your experience over an article online any day.

I enjoyed vivid dreams on MK at the beginning. Waking up with numbness in my hands came at a higher dose, like 50mg/day. Sleep was cut by half to 4-5 hours. Bloat began after 2-3 month and got really bad.
To be fair I must mention I ramp the dose up to 80mg for awhile when most sides became more prominent.

There is a thread where they do talk about those sides and some way to minimize (some) of them. It is a great thread: Invalid Link Removed

One downside is the "fix" for the bloat is aspirin, but I am allergic (well they also said a clean diet would help minimize it too, but I already know that is less likely to happen LOL). There was also talk of the sleep disruption.

 

[Sparkss]

I forgot to add that DMA378 is running a log of MK-667 + CJC here: Invalid Link Removed

 

[Sparkss]

TBH, I haven't seen much on Invictus but to be fair I haven't really looked for anything on it either. Hopefully your run with it is successful, but it appears to already be on that path anyway.

another DMA378 log is to blame for my jumping on Invictus to try LOL. He had pretty amazing results (of course everyone's results will vary).

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There was at least one other log, but DMA378's was the one that really put it over the top for me. Especially this post:

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and this one

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[Sparkss]

8/19 Shoulders/Traps

Side Lateral Raise.....................25/12, 12, 12
Standing Military Press................75/10, 85/8, 5 DS 65/10
Front Incline Dumbbell Raise...........20/12, 12, 12
Seated Dumbbell Press..................25/15, 30/10, 10
Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise.......20/12, 12, 12
Dumbbell Incline Row...................50/15, 55/15, 60/12
DB Incline Shrugs......................70/14, 14, 12
Upright BB Rows........................85/10, 10, 9

I did last weeks shoulder workout again since I got such a burn/pump from it the last time. My PWO today was Rag + 2tbs oats + 2tbs hydro whey. I also took one of the Hyrdo3 samples. I am thinking that Rag has a lower agmatine dose than CU since I get a better pump (when adding carbs) when I take CU. The pump today was subtle. I did not even noticed it until about 2/3s of the way through I realized that my arms were tight and then noticed a lot more vascular action under the skin (just not as much noticeable on the surface). Maybe it needs to build up to that? . All told it was not a bad workout of PWO, but I expected more/better. I think I got spoiled by that rock star workout I had the beginning of last week. That energy and intensity has spoiled me for all other workouts. LOL.

On the cycle front I did get notice that my PCT supplies had shipped. But tracking is less than detailed, putting the arrival sometime in near the end of the month. I also still need to order the OTC supplies but am holding off a little. We had a pretty rough last couple of months, financially speaking, and I need to replenish our coffers a bit more before I go spending a couple hundred on OTC supplies. Plus the reunion coming up will undoubtedly put a drain on our finances too, so I am prepping and planning for that.

sparks2012 I was looking at the Rag ingredients before I took the Hydro3, to make sure there was not any (negative) ingredient overlap and I noticed that it also contains Sucralose. So I guess I have been ingesting Sucralose for some time now, but probably at small enough doses not to affect me. CU also contains it (I checked), but having used the samples without too much GI impact appears that they also do not include a lot of it (which is good ). I am normally pretty vigilant about checking for artificial sweeteners, but somehow have missed it multiple times now. I guess I am slipping in my old age LOL

 

[Sparkss]

8/20 Back/Bis

1 arm DB Row................................................50/20, 70/15, 15, 15
Bent Over UH BB Row.................................145/15, 15, 15
Landmines SS**.............................................65/(10/12), (10/12)
Back Hyper Extension....................................20/27, 23, 22, 20
..Superset
DB Hammer Holds.........................................20/15, 15, 15, 15, 20
Concentration Curls.......................................20/14, 14, 14, 12
Reverse Grip BB Preacher Curls...................25/14, 14, 12, 12
Inverted Rows.....................................................15, 14, 14


I was not loving my last back workout, so I looked for some alternate exercises. I love the feel of the close grip landmines (using the Double-D handle). but I lack the weights to make it challenging for me. So I switched up and did 10 single arm landmine rows with each arm then 10+ with the D handle, all without putting the bar down or taking tension off of my back. It was a great pump, but on the second set I felt something like a pulled muscle in my left lat. So I stopped my back exercises at that point and switched over to biceps. I did the isometric hold version of the hammer curls, then moved into concentration curls, mainly adding them in because I read in the ACE study that they had the most bicep muscle activation. I had some gas left in the tank so I threw in the reverse grip curls (and I had the hyper extension chair out still, that can double as a preacher curl). Finally, I was feeling a bit better so I added in the last back exercise, the inverted row (overhand grip). Personally I prefer the body weight exercises for earlier in my workouts, but oh well .

My PWO was one of hte CU samples (+2 TBS of whey and 2 TBS of oats), and just before working out I took another of the Hydro3 sample. I did not feel a distinct pump, however about 45 minutes or so into my workout I caught a second wind, and felt energized and almost fully recharged.

I spent all day today (from 12:30 until after 8) cleaning out the garage. Lots of moving boxes, shelving, carrying boxes up a step ladder for putting on high shelves, etc. By the end I could barely bend over to pick up trash and what not as I was cleaning up to wrap up for the day. Mostly I felt it in my legs (from the workout 2 days ago.. been feeling since yesterday morning).I am not sure if tomorrow will become a rest day or if I will wake up and give my chest workout a go. I will play it be ear all depending on how I feel when I wake up .

Aside from that I plan to change up my routine for the next couple of weeks, until after the reunion. My wife commented yesterday that my arms looked noticeably bigger than even when she got home from overseas about 4 weeks ago. I said that I also felt I had gained a bit in my waist. Her response is still running in my ears. "I did not notice it so much so in your waist, but I did notice that I can't see the outline of your abs any more". So I will be alternating fasted cardio upon waking with my normal workout days (also still upon waking). And I will try to cut back a little on the caloric intake. If 3 of the 5 planned events at the reunion were not all scheduled to occur around the pool deck I would not even care or worry about it. But I would like to at least get the outline of my abs back before then

 

[FireTitan]

FT, you are always welcome! I was going to tag you in when I got ready to dive into my first cycle in a couple of weeks. You beat me to it now

Thanks brother!! Here for the support and to see you get it done!!

 

[FireTitan]

Sparkss your workouts are nice man!! The shoulder session was brutal. I get back to lifting Monday and I might take a page out of your day for mine!!

 

[Sparkss]

Sparkss your workouts are nice man!! The shoulder session was brutal. I get back to lifting Monday and I might take a page out of your day for mine!!

Thanks. Due to a limitation in equipment and range of motion I have to get creative. Although I was able to do the shoulder workout almost exactly as outlined in this article :
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[Sparkss]

8/21 Rest Day

I woke up 1. almost 2 hours later than normal and 2. sore as all h*ll from head to toe. Even if I did workout I feel that my weights and form would both be pathetic if I tried today. And those that have been following my log know that if I an not feeling a workout, I skip it. Ironically I woke up and can see the outline of my abs again (not even a 1 pack though, just a hint of the separation between my abs and obliques. But when I measured my waist I was still at 34", so anything I lost with all of the work yesterday was subq fat.

For the sleep, especially on the weekends, I typically do not set an alarm but allow my body to set the wake up time. I clocked 9.5+ (almost 10) hours of sleep, to my normal 8 hours. Which tells me that I body was in major recuperation mode last night. I am not sure how you guys (And gals) that have physically demanding jobs also manage to workout at all. I am in awe of anyone that can handle that much exertion in a single day. I can say that personally I cannot, at least not on a regular basis (and I will be paying for yesterday for a while, I am sure).

 

[sparks2012]

I'm with you on the no alarms on the weekends. Waking up on your own terms is so much more refreshing. With a physically demanding job, it can be tough to get in the gym but the body adapts fairly quickly most of the time. I do not like to do it if I don't have to, but speaking from experience it is possible. It'll catch up to you though. When I was in the desert we were 6 on 1 off, 12 hours a day (more like 13-14) and 120+ degrees at the least every day. Went hard and killed in the gym the whole 7 months out there and felt great. Once I got back home and had some R&R, I lost ALOT of motivation for the gym and slept a lot as well. I think once you give your body a chance to calm down again is when it really hits you,l. Your body just adapts and thinks the current conditions are "normal" so it'll operate there for a while.

 

[FireTitan]

I'm with you on the no alarms on the weekends. Waking up on your own terms is so much more refreshing. With a physically demanding job, it can be tough to get in the gym but the body adapts fairly quickly most of the time. I do not like to do it if I don't have to, but speaking from experience it is possible. It'll catch up to you though. When I was in the desert we were 6 on 1 off, 12 hours a day (more like 13-14) and 120+ degrees at the least every day. Went hard and killed in the gym the whole 7 months out there and felt great. Once I got back home and had some R&R, I lost ALOT of motivation for the gym and slept a lot as well. I think once you give your body a chance to calm down again is when it really hits you,l. Your body just adapts and thinks the current conditions are "normal" so it'll operate there for a while.

The desert! I actually miss that place.

 

[Sparkss]

I'm with you on the no alarms on the weekends. Waking up on your own terms is so much more refreshing. With a physically demanding job, it can be tough to get in the gym but the body adapts fairly quickly most of the time. I do not like to do it if I don't have to, but speaking from experience it is possible. It'll catch up to you though. When I was in the desert we were 6 on 1 off, 12 hours a day (more like 13-14) and 120+ degrees at the least every day. Went hard and killed in the gym the whole 7 months out there and felt great. Once I got back home and had some R&R, I lost ALOT of motivation for the gym and slept a lot as well. I think once you give your body a chance to calm down again is when it really hits you,l. Your body just adapts and thinks the current conditions are "normal" so it'll operate there for a while.

The desert! I actually miss that place.

I can only imagine those conditions. But I do understand about a life change, such as leaving an environment like that, can lead to a diminished motivation overall. But it is obvious that you have bounced back and then some. You recent pictures are inspirational. The difference between your waist and shoulder width is awe inspiring. I am looking for a similar contrast, but to do that I would need pretty massive shoulders of hulkish proportions (I have a naturally thick waist, augmented by my current caloric intake LOL).

 

[BEAST73]

Subbed, but sorry for been late to the Party..

 

[Sparkss]

Subbed, but sorry for been late to the Party..

No worries, thanks for joining in. I welcome all feedback and advice too, don't be shy if I report that I am doing something that you think is wrong, or there is a better way!