I did open that bottle of Anabeta Elite that has been taunting me for the last weeks. I started taking it yesterday at lunch and was going to take it at dinner, but had read out possible sleep issues some people experienced when taking it too close to bed time. So I deferred that dose. I am not looking at my normal "routine" to see where the doses best fit, since it says to "take with your 2 biggest meals", well, I don't have any 2 "large" meals, I eat 5 or 6 small ones, with protein shakes thrown in to fill in the gaps between if I get "snackish". So I am not sure when best to take them (just yet). My morning routine:
Take 2 white kidney bean extract (WKBE) pills + 1 green coffee bean extract (GCBE) pill
make a quad-shot latte using about 4 oz whole milk, L-arabinose (non-cal sweetener/sugar blocker) + 3/4 pump of white chocolate syrup (syrup purchased from the Starbucks store).
Toast 3 cinnamon waffles (the small square ones)
+ large glass of water (filtered, this is Florida after all)
About 60 to 90 or so minutes later, as schedule permits, I drink my PWO
30 minutes later I workout (avg 1 hour, sometime 45, sometime 1:15).
Drink post shake immediately
About an hour later I have lunch
Let me say that by now I think that the WKBE is most likely overkill at that time of the morning since I am coming off of a fast and there isn't that many (starchy) carbs in the waffles to begin with. But it is pretty cheap and at this point may just be a placebo effect for me, at the very least it give me piece of mind, for now.
I developed that combo based on testing with a glucose meter and my own personal "feel" between it and other foods. It is also one of the components of the regime that helped me get from from 200+ (wife says 220, I remember 205~210, not going to argue since I will lose

) down to barely 150 in 6 or so month's time, solely by changing my diet. It worked great for me on a cut and even worked out the first couple of months back exercising helping keep any gains lean. But I think (pretty much am sure) it is also restricting those gains. For the past week or so on non-workout days I felt myself going hypo within an hour or so after finishing breakfast if I don't have a follow up meal soon after. I never did that before. Which is good (I guess) since it seems to imply that my body is more effectively utilizing and clearing the food and glucose (on it's own). I am guessing that on the workout days the carbs/protein in my PWO is sufficient to stave off the hypo. I also want to add that I am not using any nutrient partitioners or GDAs in the morning (unless part of my PWO), not even Na-R-Ala.
My PWO/Intra/Post shakes have all changed based on feedback from several AM members.
smith_69 and
sparks2012 turned me on to RagNORok. To which I added a little Karbolic + Hydro Whey
BamBam0319 for (unknowingly) helping me decide on giving Karbolic a try (to replace the oats/out flour in my pre/post drinks) and for using a partitioner pre (tried evomuse slintensity, liked it, but it doesn't like my GI, so I only use it from time to time)
MrKleen73 provided feedback that added hydro whey to and removed the BCAAs from my intra drink and also switched the intra drink base from G2 Gatorade to Koolaide (which actually has significantly less sugar than regular Gatorade) and change my post shake to use whey isolate (versus the more expensive hydro whey, that actually got moved to the intra drink).
all of these changes feel like they have helped improve my overall body comp and add some lean mass. But I am low on the protein amounts for those drink, and will start bumping them up slowly (to determine my GI tolerance threshold, which historically is pretty low

).
I also take regular vitamins daily (breakfast/lunch/bedtime) that includes a good multi + fish and coconut oil softgels.
I can share my shakes and vitamin regime, but right now the spreadsheet I keep them in is "broken". Once I fix it I can share it.