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Soy Lecitin & Low libido?

clint3612

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Hey guys I made the switch from King to Fearn's a few weeks ago and I'm concerned. It seems with the granules my desire is terrible. I'm 40 and natty but it seems worse. Is there a correlation? If it's true, is it the actual PA or the soy causing it?
 
clint3612 said:
Hey guys I made the switch from King to Fearn's a few weeks ago and I'm concerned. It seems with the granules my desire is terrible. I'm 40 and natty but it seems worse. Is there a correlation? If it's true, is it the actual PA or the soy causing it?
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There's actually been a few studies disproving the bro-science saying that soy decreases test. To be honest, at 40, your test levels have dropped a ways, so there's always a chance, it's just due to that and all you need is either a doctor's hand or an otc hormone stabilizer
 
I use three scoops Pre-workout and been doing it for months now (using Fearns); used 2 scoops Pre-workout for a month or two before that and I haven't had any libido issues using. Maybe it's something else... I'd suggest a blood work up, and see where all your levels are. Although, I am no expert.
 
Parad0x said:
There's actually been a few studies disproving the bro-science saying that soy decreases test. To be honest, at 40, your test levels have dropped a ways, so there's always a chance, it's just due to that and all you need is either a doctor's hand or an otc hormone stabilizer
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I hear ya but man it seems it's gotten worse. I know 40 sets me back but I think it's a tad worse.??? Who knows ?!?!
 
halljo said:
I use three scoops Pre-workout and been doing it for months now (using Fearns); used 2 scoops Pre-workout for a month or two before that and I haven't had any libido issues using. Maybe it's something else... I'd suggest a blood work up, and see where all your levels are. Although, I am no expert.
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Are you hormonally natty?
 
clint3612 said:
I hear ya but man it seems it's gotten worse. I know 40 sets me back but I think it's a tad worse.??? Who knows ?!?!
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As mentioned by halljo, I'd say get blood work. It could be hormonal imbalance, it could be free rads, could be an abnormally high level of shbg, it could be MANY things. Blood work bro. Hope you're not afraid of a butterfly needle.
 
Parad0x said:
As mentioned by halljo, I'd say get blood work. It could be hormonal imbalance, it could be free rads, could be an abnormally high level of shbg, it could be MANY things. Blood work bro. Hope you're not afraid of a butterfly needle.
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No, I'm not afraid of needles, I'm not ready to be told I have Low T because I swore I wouldn't try that until I'm 45+
 
clint3612 said:
Hey guys I made the switch from King to Fearn's a few weeks ago and I'm concerned. It seems with the granules my desire is terrible. I'm 40 and natty but it seems worse. Is there a correlation? If it's true, is it the actual PA or the soy causing it?
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No.PA or other phospholipids will not decrease Test levels.
And if you are affraid of isoflavones(act like phytoestrogens in mammals) , you will not find them in Soy Lecithin. If even found, it would be trace of it
 
clint3612 said:
No, I'm not afraid of needles, I'm not ready to be told I have Low T because I swore I wouldn't try that until I'm 45+
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Honestly brother, it's in your best intrests to get thebtest done just in case. Hell, if the test comes back negative...it could just be a diet thing. Do you eat processed sh!t? Cuz that can leave a ton of free radicals in your system. There are plenty of things that can cause lack of libido and estrogen spikes, and many things can lead to a vicious cycle and a downward spiral. Here's a straight up question: do you have any symptoms of low T?
 
clint3612 said:
Ok, once again I felt fine with King but I swear the Fearn's has diminished my libido.
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It takes a TON (honestly, you more than likely COULDN'T consun enough) of soy to cause an estrogen spike. You'd have to consume entire stacks of containers daily to reach that point.
 
Parad0x said:
Honestly brother, it's in your best intrests to get thebtest done just in case. Hell, if the test comes back negative...it could just be a diet thing. Do you eat processed sh!t? Cuz that can leave a ton of free radicals in your system. There are plenty of things that can cause lack of libido and estrogen spikes, and many things can lead to a vicious cycle and a downward spiral. Here's a straight up question: do you have any symptoms of low T?
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I'm sure in some ways I do. Like I said, libido dropped (more recently). Fortunately, I can gain and sustain an erection but my desire is crap. My workouts are getting harder to recover from but that's to be expected. Other than that, I feel ok. I think?!
 
clint3612 said:
I'm sure in some ways I do. Like I said, libido dropped (more recently). Fortunately, I can gain and sustain an erection but my desire is crap. My workouts are getting harder to recover from but that's to be expected. Other than that, I feel ok. I think?!
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Do you happen to be depressed? No, not sad, there's more than sadness that makes depression. Look up the symptoms and see if they relate to you. Lack of desire and depression are 2 big symptoms of low T. If so, definitely get yourself checked man. It's a quick stick and draw, nothing to it.
 
Parad0x said:
Do you happen to be depressed? No, not sad, there's more than sadness that makes depression. Look up the symptoms and see if they relate to you. Lack of desire and depression are 2 big symptoms of low T. If so, definitely get yourself checked man. It's a quick stick and draw, nothing to it.
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Not too depressed, but I'm gonna look into the blood test. It may be time to evaluate things. Thanks for your responses and advice!
 
clint3612 said:
Not too depressed, but I'm gonna look into the blood test. It may be time to evaluate things. Thanks for your responses and advice!
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No prob. After my cycle of 4andro, I'm thinking about getting evaluated myself. I'm a little younger than you, but before this cycle, I've been feeling effects of low T for awhile. If I get tested now, I'm sure I'd look kinda normal! Lol no point in that...it's a scary thought that you might have low T, but it could easily be genetics. Don't worry about it too much. It's your life, so live it man. If you DO have low T, don't let a doctor prescribe you high level TRT, that's bs. You want to normalize I'm sure; not roid out. Though if you are, then I'm sure you'd find high TRT to be quite beneficial lol. Hope everything works out man. Make sure on top of a full T diagnostic they run you a lipid panel and a CBC. Can't be too careful, am i right?
 
Parad0x said:
No prob. After my cycle of 4andro, I'm thinking about getting evaluated myself. I'm a little younger than you, but before this cycle, I've been feeling effects of low T for awhile. If I get tested now, I'm sure I'd look kinda normal! Lol no point in that...it's a scary thought that you might have low T, but it could easily be genetics. Don't worry about it too much. It's your life, so live it man. If you DO have low T, don't let a doctor prescribe you high level TRT, that's bs. You want to normalize I'm sure; not roid out. Though if you are, then I'm sure you'd find high TRT to be quite beneficial lol. Hope everything works out man. Make sure on top of a full T diagnostic they run you a lipid panel and a CBC. Can't be too careful, am i right?
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Yeah, I would do a lipid panel as well. No, I'm hoping to avoid shutdown at all costs! My biggest fear is to end up with the inability to produce my own test.
 
clint3612 said:
Yeah, I would do a lipid panel as well. No, I'm hoping to avoid shutdown at all costs! My biggest fear is to end up with the inability to produce my own test.
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Good on you man. A good endo will start you low and work up, rather than start high and make you feel like a teen. If you do end up needing TRT, there are several routes to go, so try and get them to help you choose the best one for you. Pellets, gels, injects, etc. One way or another, you can beat this. I know i am, and I'm sure everyone on this forum is, pulling for you and hoping you beat this sh!t into the dirt and come out on top. I'll be prayin for you.
 
Parad0x said:
Good on you man. A good endo will start you low and work up, rather than start high and make you feel like a teen. If you do end up needing TRT, there are several routes to go, so try and get them to help you choose the best one for you. Pellets, gels, injects, etc. One way or another, you can beat this. I know i am, and I'm sure everyone on this forum is, pulling for you and hoping you beat this sh!t into the dirt and come out on top. I'll be prayin for you.
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Thanks brotha but in the meantime I'm gonna keep eating my Fearn's! (:
 
I'm all natural and use 2 tbsp before and 2 post workout and 2 tbsp on off days.

No libido issues here.
 
clint3612 said:
Yeah, I would do a lipid panel as well. No, I'm hoping to avoid shutdown at all costs! My biggest fear is to end up with the inability to produce my own test.
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Look into private lab MD female hormone panel.
Lipid, estrogen, test levels all at one low price. The anabolic section has a sticky about it
 
I'm 31 and no issues with 4+ tbsp/day here.
 
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