Some help with hcg!

G13

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As a quick note my endo has put me on HCG. Last time I was given it by endo it was around march last year, anyway was only on it a month (3,000 iu... 1,500iu x2 per week) And I got pretty puffy to say the least, nipples a bit swolen looking to. Anyway my test been sitting at 5.9 for around almost 2 years... But had a lot of issues in and out of the hospital (have ulcerative colitis) so things have been left and messed around, but they think it's piturity related (had a lot of prednisone which has prob wrecked my adrenals and in turn part of piturity) I could have ran gear tbh but just never have and im sick of feeling so crap all the time. Rubbish sex drive etc, have to keep jabbing pt-141 to just get a decent erection...

Anyway moving on... Endo is putting me on this just to see if it makes me feel better whilst they try work out whats wrong. If this doesn't do the job then they will put me on sust.

So problem is, I am SURPRISINGLY pretty ripped and quite large (15 stone) TBH I have no idea how. I train v hard though and eat well and don't drink etc as im on chemotherapy drugs etc.

But how can I stop the HCG water bloat? I haven't started it yet but I REALLY need this testosterone up so im hoping for it, just fed up with zero energy and tired all the time. Im taking proviron atm (under my own back) tbh I have no idea why just makes me feel better about myself just taking 50mg per day for the last few months. Would take more but it gets pretty pricey! but can take more if needed.

Anyway if I start the HCG how can I stop the water bloat I need to stay pretty lean and ripped as I already am pretty much all year round for my job... I know I could throw in nolvadex and even an AI BUT i'd really rather not as I take enough tablets as it is and I don't want to take lots more incase it sets my colitis off etc...

Any suggestions here? and I've to stay on the hcg for long term. Thx
 
That seems like a high dose of HCG honestly, what is your endo attempting to do?

ManBeast
 
Well if I'll be honest it was the last endo who told me to run that, but then had a big fall out guy was a moron so changed to another one and he just said stick on that dose.

Attempting to really just make me feel better get my sex drive back up and running, energy levels etc as im really low, and have been all the time it's pretty bad. But in the mean time aims to do this whilst finding root cause of why my test won't raise at all, I've been off pred 8 months now and it has never risen not one bit, if anything it's got worse. I mean even in some guys here who have been shutdown off a lot of gear I presume the test levels still raise somewhat a little bit over time? mine have decreased if anything it makes zero sense, but they are aiming to run ultra sounds and mri scans on head to assess the piturity gland.
 
Nah, if you've hit andropause they won't come back up, they will continue to steadily decline even with HCG etc. You might want to tell all this to the doc and try and get on actual testosterone therapy.

ManBeast
 
it can happen any time after your hormonal surge ends, while not the most likely, i suggest you find a doc that you are comfy with having a very open dialog about how you feel day to day, don't try and talk shop with most of them, it puts them on guard for some reason. I hope though that some HCG/clomid can get you restarted from whatever it is that shut you down.

ManBeast
 
He's the only doc that really listens to me though, and he is helping. But I was just unsure... I really don't want to blow up with water, but if the proviron will counter-act that then im not to bothered.

Either that or I could prob convince him just to put me on some sust, that would be the more viable option for me lol.
 
eh, cyp is nicer IMHO. much more stable blood levels after a few weeks. a research chemical grade AI could help with any bloat that might happen. Good thing your doc listens to you.

ManBeast
 
So you reckon I should just not bother with the hcg go back and ask for some trt/test instead?
Would the proviron not combat the water retention?
I've got some aromasin but again it's hard here to get pharma AI's, very very expensive to get pharma stuff, so must the stuff is UGL's.
 
Proviron *should* do it, but I don't think its the best route if you are trying to re-start test production because of its suppressive nature.

ManBeast
 
IIRC proviron's suppressiveness is a grey area but research does show that suppression does not even occur, whilst other research will contradict that. But I RECKONED in it's lowish dose of 50mg per day this would be fine?
 
like you said, there is research supporting both sides, and I'm not an expert (I don't have access to anything you don't in terms of research). I'd go with the doc if you trust them so far.

ManBeast
 
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