Some camph, cissus, caffeine questions...

lifted

lifted

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I used cissus before for like 2.5 weeks and didn't help too much...and due to a stomach bug, I went off of it and just started taking it again for another week or so.

It seems that it is now working better for me for some reason...maybe it was because of the last cycle I was on?? I thin that the test may have screwed with my collagen synthesis and I was expecting to much from cissus??

Dunno, anyways, I wanted to try and add in the camph along with MAYBE some caffeine like everybody keeps saying...

So, since money's tight atm, I'm just gonna run the camp at 6/day and cissus at 6/day.

Should I still dose them as per the bottle? Or should I use them together? for example, 2 morning, 2 midday, and two night? Is that the best way? Or some other way?

Thx for any help fellas.
 
Oh yeah, the cissus is giving me noteable results already compared to last time's trial. I've been getting in a better mood (which I have a hard time w/ most of the time...maybe a little depression, dunno) and I think it's due ot the cortisol lowering effects....

I've also felt the pumps and I look more fuller looking. I'm already looking forward ot buying more. The last time I tried it, I was coming off of a test/dbol cycle and I was really supressed during that first 4 weeks...Now, about 11 weeks post cycle, I seem to be able to notice more of the effects. guess I was just expecting too much to soon last time. :rolleyes:
 
I have been taking the two products together, each dose with each other, empty stomach and it is like nothing I have ever taken before. the 6 a day of both is a totally acceptable amount and I honestly think my going 9 a day of both isn't showing forth anything better than the 6....... however, DO take it before bed, maybe a good hour or so before
 
so you don't feel like the 9 is working any better than the 6....I started at 9 because I am in PCT right now and I have a high tolerance to everything...maybe I should try 6 and see if it is as effective...I just figured it was a product that was dose dependent...If anyone knows about this please explain
 
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so you don't feel like the 9 is working any better than the 6....I started at 9 because I am in PCT right now and I have a high tolerance to everything...maybe I should try 6 and see if it is as effective...I just figured it was a product that was dose dependent...If anyone knows about this please explain
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Stick with 9 with PCT.

All the studies used 3 to 6 grams of cissus and at 6 caps a day your right about 4 grams so 9 caps puts you in the upper range. In PCT, You should still use clomid or nolva, Forskolin(like cAMPHibolic) along with cissus.

ceosm
 
lifted said:
I used cissus before for like 2.5 weeks and didn't help too much...and due to a stomach bug, I went off of it and just started taking it again for another week or so.

It seems that it is now working better for me for some reason...maybe it was because of the last cycle I was on?? I thin that the test may have screwed with my collagen synthesis and I was expecting to much from cissus??

Dunno, anyways, I wanted to try and add in the camph along with MAYBE some caffeine like everybody keeps saying...

So, since money's tight atm, I'm just gonna run the camp at 6/day and cissus at 6/day.

Should I still dose them as per the bottle? Or should I use them together? for example, 2 morning, 2 midday, and two night? Is that the best way? Or some other way?

Thx for any help fellas.
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Use them together.
 
lifted said:
Should I still dose them as per the bottle? Or should I use them together? for example, 2 morning, 2 midday, and two night? Is that the best way? Or some other way?
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Stacking the cAMP and Cissus together and taking them at the same time will bring noticable gains and results. What I recommend is taking 2 cAMP with 3 Cissus upon waking 45 minutes before a meal or workout, 2 cAMP midday with 3 Cissus, and 2 cAMP before bed.

Currently, since I am in PCT, I have been dosing at a regiman of 8 cAMP per day and 9 Cissus today with tremendous success!! I can totally feel the positive influence it is having on my recovery, my workouts, and my well being!!

Oh yeah, the cissus is giving me noteable results already compared to last time's trial. I've been getting in a better mood (which I have a hard time w/ most of the time...maybe a little depression, dunno) and I think it's due ot the cortisol lowering effects....
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You have noticed this too I see!! That's wonderful!! The entire time I was cutting I couldn't believe I was in such a better mood than usual. I looked into it and knew it had to be the Cissus hard at work!!

I've also felt the pumps and I look more fuller looking. I'm already looking forward ot buying more. The last time I tried it, I was coming off of a test/dbol cycle and I was really supressed during that first 4 weeks...Now, about 11 weeks post cycle, I seem to be able to notice more of the effects. guess I was just expecting too much to soon last time. :rolleyes:
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That's great, the pumps and vascularity are amazing aren't they!!
 
thx for your input watcher...I'm starting to like this even more now...I actually stopped using my cissus again for a few days as I was out of town and forgot to bring them (DOH!! :D ) and it seems that you really can't see how much it's doing for you pain-wise until you stop using it....I was exp pain again, but it was less this time...while on cissus, you just kinda totally forget about the pain you had before...it just slips your mind...lol.
 
Now That's What I Call High Quality!!

lifted said:
thx for your input watcher.
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You're so very welcome, anything I can do to help out:thumbsup:

Lifted said:
I'm starting to like this even more now...I actually stopped using my cissus again for a few days as I was out of town and forgot to bring them (DOH!! :D ) and it seems that you really can't see how much it's doing for you pain-wise until you stop using it....I was exp pain again, but it was less this time...while on cissus, you just kinda totally forget about the pain you ha d before...it just slips your mind...lol.
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Now that is a true to life definition of what I described in my other thread as a staple supplement:) That is exactly how I feel about my Cissus Rx too, I simply cannot live without it anymore. It has become a regular part of my training and I value it highly!! What you said is soooooo true and you just don't know how much of a good thing you have until you no longer have it. You have to love high quality:thumbsup:
 
Cissus and cAMP together work remarkably well for an herbal supp. Since starting CissusRX 6 weeks ago and cAMPH just two weeks ago, Im down a good 1.3% body fat (started CissusRX at 14.7%, 6 weeks later Im at 13.5%), and yet Ive only lost ~1lb of bodyweight. Strength is up. Not a crazy amount, but Im up a good 5-10 lbs on all lifts. Pretty impressive for being in a caloric defecit!!

The only other herbal product that Ive tried that can compare to Cissus in terms of quality effects would be Rhodiola Rosea. Not so much anabolic effects, but 1g of Rhodiola and all my worries just melt away...

BV
 
BigVrunga said:
The only other herbal product that Ive tried that can compare to Cissus in terms of quality effects would be Rhodiola Rosea. Not so much anabolic effects, but 1g of Rhodiola and all my worries just melt away...

BV
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What brand do you use?

I am looking for a good one and a good place to buy it.
 
:D you might want to try Invalid Link Removed for herbal stuff too - great selection and awesome prices. I havent ordered from them yet, but other guys on the site have, and they seem to be great.

BV
 
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