AndrewMcD
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Interesting product. Personally I've always noticed much better endurance effects from Tigers Milk mushroom over cordyceps.
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kid amnesiac
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This is an SNS thread, we shouldn’t be positing about competitive products. I took a quick glance, while there are some similarities the SNS product seems superior on many angles including a standardized rhodiola, no proprietary blends, additional ingredients like S7 & Senactiv. All at the same time being cheaper. I’m pumped for this!
AndrewMcD
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Wasnt he just asking how it COMPARES to a SNS product?...
Feels like an incredibly valid question when trying to decide which supplement that targets the same goal to spend money on.
sns8778
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When formulating products, I follow the science and real world feedback.
I'm glad that you found another type of mushroom that works well for you, and you could always add it on top of it if you would like to, but that's the first time I've every heard anyone say that - but am happy for you that it works for you.
Cordyceps has a lot of science on it for endurance, and especially using both the militaris and sinensis type together - and the method of action through which it works goes along well with other methods of action in this product.
I went to extremely great detailed links in the write up to explain how the ingredients work, and how they work together to cover increasing endurance from a very comprehensive perspective.
sns8778
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He was just asking a question, but I understand where @kid amnesiac was coming from with his statement - and that there has been so much trolling on here lately and people doing that intentionally, that sometimes its hard to distinguish between it being an innocent question and intentional.
I don't think that @keemteam meant it negatively but I don't think @kid amnesiac did either. It's happened so much lately that the Admin has asked people to report it right away, so kid mentioning it rather than just reporting it, I think he likely realized it was an innocent question.
sns8778
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I don't like comparing our products to other brands because I never want to come off as saying anything negative about another brand. I don't mind answering, I just want to clarify that I'm not meaning anything negative towards theirs, I'm just answering your question.
I hadn't looked at anything of theirs in years, so I had to look it up to be able to answer.
There supplement facts panel on theirs is confusing as they say its 2.4 grams total, but then they identify the blend dosages as 1.8 grams, 338 mg., and 150 mg., which adds up to 2,288 mg., not 2,400 mg.
The only comparisons I see are:
- ReV02 has 2,000 mg. of Cordy-Plex (Cordyceps Militaris/Cordyceps Sinensis) to their 1,800 mg. Cordyceps blend
- ReV02 has 625% more Salidroside
- Theirs contains a 338 mg. prop blend of Rhodiola and Gynostemma and doesn't specify anything about Salidroside content, so if we go off of the average, the average Salidroside content in Rhodiola Rosea is 1%, so even if we ignore that its a prop blend and go off the total prop blend dose - 338 mg. x .01 (1%) = 3.38 mg. of Salidroside - whereas ReV02 contains 25 mg. which is more than 625% more Salidroside.
- Both products contain 150 mg. ElevATP
AndrewMcD
Member
Definitely going to give RevVO2 a shot!
For some reason I respond extremely well to the respitory benefits of Tigers Milk. Might be something to look into in the future since there's really only one reliable brand that carries it.
determination
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I plan on using this one all summer. I am thinking about stacking it with ATPElite. I hope to use Cordarine in the months leading up to summer to focus on burning some fat.
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sns8778
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RhodioPrime no longer exists.
Rhodiola Rosea and Crenulata are now endangered species and were added to the CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species) list.
This doesn't mean that you won't see Rhodiola Rosea in supplements anymore, but I doubt you will see Rhodiola Crenulata in supplements after existing world supplies run out. The reason for this is that Rosea is much more popular than Crenulata in sales volume. There are companies that have gotten CITES exemptions/approval to cultivate their own massive crops of Rosea - but in practical terms, Rosea used to be inexpensive and will now be much, much higher priced. Crenulata was already a lot more expensive than Rosea anyway.
Rhodiola Rosea generally has high rosavin content and low salidroside content.
Rhodiola Crenulata has a higher salidroside content.
Since the main reason for using Rhodiola Crenulata anyway is for the high salidroside content, NNB developed a pure Salidroside ingredient to replace RhodioPrime6x - SalidroPure.
RhodioPrime6X is standardized to 6% salidroside, so it would take have taken 420 mg. to provide the amount of Salidroside in ReV02.
ReV02 is the launch product for SalidroPure
Ziyo
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Oh damnRhodioPrime no longer exists.
Rhodiola Rosea and Crenulata are now endangered species and were added to the CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species) list.
This doesn't mean that you won't see Rhodiola Rosea in supplements anymore, but I doubt you will see Rhodiola Crenulata in supplements after existing world supplies run out. The reason for this is that Rosea is much more popular than Crenulata in sales volume. There are companies that have gotten CITES exemptions/approval to cultivate their own massive crops of Rosea - but in practical terms, Rosea used to be inexpensive and will now be much, much higher priced. Crenulata was already a lot more expensive than Rosea anyway.
Rhodiola Rosea generally has high rosavin content and low salidroside content.
Rhodiola Crenulata has a higher salidroside content.
Since the main reason for using Rhodiola Crenulata anyway is for the high salidroside content, NNB developed a pure Salidroside ingredient to replace RhodioPrime6x - SalidroPure.
RhodioPrime6X is standardized to 6% salidroside, so it would take have taken 420 mg. to provide the amount of Salidroside in ReV02.
ReV02 is the launch product for SalidroPure
I don’t know how to feel about that haha
I really liked the RhodioPrime and I I know that SalidroPure is more potent but how would you say the feeling compares?
So that means we will be seeing RhodioPrime in Mood Support from now on?
alvin1
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So rhodiola supplement will disapear?
sns8778
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Oh damn
I don’t know how to feel about that haha
I really liked the RhodioPrime and I I know that SalidroPure is more potent but how would you say the feeling compares?
So that means we will be seeing RhodioPrime in Mood Support from now on?
I'm surprised the Rhodiola situation hasn't gotten more attention that it has. It's well known within the industry with brand owners, but I think most consumers don't know - likely bc brands and suppliers want to make sure they can sell out of existing stocks.
Salidroside is/was the active in RhodioPrime anyway, so I think the feeling would be the same comparing mg to mg, but SalidroPure gives the benefit of being able to dose Salidroside a lot higher and get it exactly where want the dosage to be.
25 mg. of SalidroPure is a strong dose of it.
Mood Support XT, when we are out of RhodioPrime6X will have straight Salidroside in it, but it won't be as highly dosed.
sns8778
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I tried to explain that in my post where I said:
This doesn't mean that you won't see Rhodiola Rosea in supplements anymore, but I doubt you will see Rhodiola Crenulata in supplements after existing world supplies run out. The reason for this is that Rosea is much more popular than Crenulata in sales volume. There are companies that have gotten CITES exemptions/approval to cultivate their own massive crops of Rosea - but in practical terms, Rosea used to be inexpensive and will now be much, much higher priced. Crenulata was already a lot more expensive than Rosea anyway
I'm sorry if it came off confusing.
You'll still see Rhodiola Rosea, but it will be more expensive.
I doubt you'll see Rhodiola Crenulata, which you didn't see much anyway.
There are some suppliers that can get approval to cultivate their own massive crops of Rhodiola, and a couple already have. Which translates into they'll be able to charge pretty much whatever they want to.
Joshlm69
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I feel like Uro-B has been keeping my strength steady since I ran out of PrimeXT, its such a great strength product and very very affordableI've begged for this quite a few times. Honestly it is an expensive standalone right now and probably tough to financially fit in a formula (especially Rev02, it is already loaded and priced well beyond what I'd expect nearly any other company to do).
We are already lucky enough SNS has Uro-B to use, which is in the same general area as Robuvit usage.
This does remind me to maybe try picking some up again if I ever see it at a decent price, I am a fan.
Danksta710
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I've begged for this quite a few times. Honestly it is an expensive standalone right now and probably tough to financially fit in a formula (especially Rev02, it is already loaded and priced well beyond what I'd expect nearly any other company to do).
We are already lucky enough SNS has Uro-B to use, which is in the same general area as Robuvit usage.
This does remind me to maybe try picking some up again if I ever see it at a decent price, I am a fan.
Are people mega dosing that like Uro-B? Curious to learn more...
sns8778
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Do not mega dose Robuvit. One of the reasons I'm hesitant to use it in a formula is because it gives some people headaches at higher dosing. It's one that I personally wouldn't even consider mega dosing.
That's why I also think its better as a single ingredient - so that people can add it to whatever if they want to, but the people that can't take it, they don't have to not be able to take a full formula bc of it.
sns8778
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No, there wasn't. It's not a bad ingredient, but it wouldn't have made sense to include it in the formula because it would have made it more expensive and not really added much, if any additional benefits to the formula. Plus, I think that its an ingredient that is best as a standalone because some people get headaches from it. By it being a single ingredient, people can add it if they want, but if its included in a formula, then people that can't take it can't take the entire product bc of it.
The ingredients in ReV02 were selected because they all work individually but they all also work together nicely to target the different avenues of contribute to increasing endurance. All the individual ingredients are great, but its not about that - its the way they all come together to address the different elements of increasing endurance.
The write up for ReV02 is probably the longest most comprehensive write up I've ever written - to be able to explain endurance, address different pathways, and how they work together.
ironfiend22
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Kept pushing off my 12 week hypertrophy cycle because I was waiting for the BMP supplement and I Evomuse is out at most places. Any news on when that is out. Though I am on a mortgage of SNS/CEL supps right now (seriously, probably at least a luxury car payment).
sns8778
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BASIS will be launched in the next couple of weeks.
We will be starting the ingredient reveal countdown in the next couple of days.
sns8778
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I'm sorry but I can't give an exact ETA on that yet bc there are too many things in front of it.
BASIS and Cordarine are both in and waiting to be released.
The premise for Nattybolic has changed a couple of times - what it was originally going to be when I first mentioned it a couple years back is the idea that evolved to become BASIS.
There were 2 reasons for that:
- I like the name BASIS better for what the product is and does.
- I think that Nattybolic is a great name and needs to be a good comprehensive muscle builder, but that it also needs to be easy for the average person to understand how it works (bc it is such a good name); and BASIS is very complex in how it works.
Everything is finished up with it and its just a matter of the the other ones being in front of it.
I appreciate you asking and your interest.
N2ofusion
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Are we able to make any comparisons to Peak O2? I believe that was in the SNS lineup a couple years ago. I not only liked the endurance but I also enjoyed how it could seemingly calm my heart rate down a few beats had I overdone it with the stims that day.
poison
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I haven't used Rev 02, but I've used some of the ingredients. It's going to smoke it in the endurance dept, though peak 02 might have a broader array of other benefits.
sns8778
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I agree with you on the it being much better for endurance and it targets increasing endurance through a variety of different pathways.
ReV02 would actually have a much broader array of benefits because Peak02 is a mushroom blend of which cordyceps militaris is the primary ingredient.
ReV02 would have a much broader scope of benefits because it has 2 grams of Cordyceps plus other ingredients to increase the body's natural ATP levels, increase the body's natural nitric oxide production, senescent cell clearance, and a lot more.
sns8778
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PEAK02 is a blend of 6 mushrooms, of which cordyceps militaris is the primary one, and is promoted for endurance and V02 max. It will still be in the SNS lineup as we have some in production now. We were originally going to discontinue it, but we had a few people ask us to keep making it, so we will continue to offer it.
But its a mushroom blend that's primary ingredient is cordyceps - that would be kind of like comparing Furosap XT to Optimize-T - Furosap XT is a great product/ingredient but of course Optimize-T will be stronger bc it has Furosap in it plus a lot more. Similar to how ReV02 has 2 grams of cordyceps + a lot more.
There's no other supplement that I've ever seen that targets endurance and V02 max through as many pathways as ReV02 does.
sns8778
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Link: https://anabolicminds.com/community...e-v02-max-supplement-intro-discussion.339243/
poison
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I thought peak 02 was evenly split between 3 mushroom types, my bad. That makes sense.
sns8778
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No worries. It’s 6 different mushrooms in it. Cordyceps militaris is listed first, so that would be the highest content one.
Haterank74
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Dam that's alot of products and alot of branded ingredients, Quality stuff.
ProtoTest XT or Anabolic Xt if only one choose to add PCT
ProtoTest XT or Anabolic Xt if only one choose to add PCT
Joshlm69
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Depends what you need it for. Prototest will help actually boost your test/libido, anabolicXT will help you continue pushing hard with training and making gains in PCT
Haterank74
Member
im looking for recommendations at which one others would choose like yourself and or what SNS product is best during PCT if you can only pick one
Joshlm69
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If I had to use one for purely PCT purposes, I believe Prototest fits the bill better. However, if its for PCT recovery, I would still think that CEL M-Test is your best bet.
I am currently running both M-Test & Prototest (1 cap) together and I love it.
Haterank74
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Thanks I will add Prototest to my upcoming PCT to try something new, of course i also run legit SERMS but always like to add something like a natural boooster as well for added effects.
sns8778
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Not necessarily next. They’re both coming up soon, but so are a lot of other things.
For CEL, the original thought for sequence was MPC-185, Cordarine, and then BASIS but a lot of ppl seem like they want BASIS to come out first.
keep up the good work
Matrixxx1984
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Да, мы ждем БАЗУ
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BigGame84
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Very interested in Cordarine but for me, I would like if BASIS came out asap.
AndrewMcD
Member
lol I only said this because they have the 'coming soon' placeholders on DPS!
Danksta710
Active member
I like the sound of that! I'll be running this as soon as it's in my hands. Super excited!
Release us the BASIS!!!!
sns8778
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He grabbed those from the teasers on the bottom of the SNS page. Those have been there since before quite a few things that have came out have come out
TommyTuffGuy
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We need dat BASIS.