Sleeplessness while on andro cycle

[JoePaul39]

Hi All:

I am running my 2nd cycle of the andros. The first cycle I ran about 6 months back was 1 andro alone at 330 mg. I started experiencing sleeplessness so I took Melatonin which for the most part got rid of it. I am now on my 2nd cycle of the andros nearing the end of the 4th week. This time I have stacked 330 mg 1 andro with 330 mg 4 andro, and 750 mg Epi Andro. This week the same symptoms began occurring, but this time the Melatonin is not fixing it. Anyone experience this? Any advice? If it keeps up I am going to have to end the cycle at 4 weeks.

 

[Whisky]

Hey bro, I had exactly the same when I ran that stack last year. Started in week 1 and was a real problem but it settled after around 5 days and wasn’t a problem for the remainder of the cycle. I do take zma every night but don’t know if that helped.

I’d ride it out and hope it settles.

 

[JoePaul39]

Hey bro, I had exactly the same when I ran that stack last year. Started in week 1 and was a real problem but it settled after around 5 days and wasn’t a problem for the remainder of the cycle. I do take zma every night but don’t know if that helped.

I’d ride it out and hope it settles.

Hope your right. I just don't like looking like a zombie with the bags under my eyes, etc and feeling in general like crap. I also know it has to effect gym performance. I then get tempted to take naps during day/ early evening hours due to not having slept the night before, but I know that will just interrupt my sleeping cycle worst when I lay down for the night. I had planned on cutting the cycle if I don't get any sleep again this evening, but based upon your experience may try to ride it a few more days and hope things settle down. This just started a couple days ago. I have prescribed Klonopin on hand that I take as needed. I guess I will try adding that in at night as well.

 

[Mzakif]

Sad to hear this I hope it settles by time .

I’d try what whiskey said

Now I’m worried as I’m about to start same cycle bye at higher dose

Try muscle relaxant as some of them makes u a bit sleepy , this works for me some time

Good luck

 

[Whisky]

Hope your right. I just don't like looking like a zombie with the bags under my eyes, etc and feeling in general like crap. I also know it has to effect gym performance. I then get tempted to take naps during day/ early evening hours due to not having slept the night before, but I know that will just interrupt my sleeping cycle worst when I lay down for the night. I had planned on cutting the cycle if I don't get any sleep again this evening, but based upon your experience may try to ride it a few more days and hope things settle down. This just started a couple days ago. I have prescribed Klonopin on hand that I take as needed. I guess I will try adding that in at night as well.

When are you dosing the epiandro by the way? I was originally spacing through the day but changed the epiandro to all first thing and pwo (as much as poss - some of it was in the tri andro caps I was using)......

 

[JoePaul39]

When are you dosing the epiandro by the way? I was originally spacing through the day but changed the epiandro to all first thing and pwo (as much as poss - some of it was in the tri andro caps I was using)......

I have Olympus Labs Elite Epi. It is 250 mg a capsule and I take 3 capsules (750 mg a day) spread out throughout the day.

 

[brofessorx]

I take it you guys didn’t really research steroid side effects before using them, huh?

 

[DennisC1986]

This^
First step would be to dose the epi preworkout

 

[JoePaul39]

This^
First step would be to dose the epi preworkout

Thanks for the tip- All 750 mg? I work out in the morning so that would probably help a great deal.

 

[Whisky]

Thanks for the tip- All 750 mg? I work out in the morning so that would probably help a great deal.

Yeah, all pwo.

 

[jameschoi]

Arnold always said when on gear, "you can sleep when you are dead:" :AR15firing:

 

[SouthPawSD]

When I coukdnt sleep on this same cycle I used melatonin, ketotifen and mk677. But you might not want to take all of that but maybe try ketotifen instead of melatonin. That's what I use when I can't sleep

 

[Cgkone]

DSIP
Is the bomb
But you have to poke

 

[Renew1]

DSIP
Is the bomb
But you have to poke

It works pretty well?

 

[Cgkone]

It works pretty well?

Yes
Clean sleep is how I describe it.
It dosnt make me tired but when I lay down I fall asleep easy.
Sleep is solid but not too heavy.
When I wake up I'm not groggy but I could still sleep.
Easily wake up and I feel totally normal.
I like it.
I got it as a freebie and always keep a vial in the fridge

 

[Renew1]

Yes
Clean sleep is how I describe it.
It dosnt make me tired but when I lay down I fall asleep easy.
Sleep is solid but not too heavy.
When I wake up I'm not groggy but I could still sleep.
Easily wake up and I feel totally normal.
I like it.
I got it as a freebie and always keep a vial in the fridge

Nice. I'll have to try it.

 

[DennisC1986]

DSIP?

 

[Cgkone]

DSIP?

Peptide

 

[JoePaul39]

Yeah, all pwo.

Well I am taking your guys advice and took the Epi all this morning. I will post tomorrow hopefully with news of a good night snooze!

 

[jameschoi]

DSIP?

Deeper Sleep with the DSIP Peptide

This type of peptide is classified as a neuropeptide and it works by inducing spindle and delta EEG activity and by reducing motor activity.
While information on this peptide is lacking, in contrast to information about other peptides, such as Somatropin and HCG, real-life users do find that this formula has the power to help them sleep very well, even when they’ve been suffering from insomnia or troubled sleep for a long time.
This is a peptide that insomniacs appreciate and many find that the inconvenience of injecting this peptide, seconds of discomfort is well worth the benefit in return

 

[Toren]

Look for an OTC sleep product that contains melatonin as well as L-Theanine and 5-HTP. They usually work better than just melatonin products. GABA can also help you relax and fall asleep.

 

[Toren]

Yes
Clean sleep is how I describe it.
It dosnt make me tired but when I lay down I fall asleep easy.
Sleep is solid but not too heavy.
When I wake up I'm not groggy but I could still sleep.
Easily wake up and I feel totally normal.
I like it.
I got it as a freebie and always keep a vial in the fridge

On my list of things to try. Thanks for the review.

 

[Cgkone]

On my list of things to try. Thanks for the review.

I've already gave some to two people and they both respond pretty much the same.
Yeah its pretty good.

 

[SkRaw85]

Vital Alchemy Youth GH working well for me since I bought a bottle. Cheap fix, no sticks.

 

[JoePaul39]

When are you dosing the epiandro by the way? I was originally spacing through the day but changed the epiandro to all first thing and pwo (as much as poss - some of it was in the tri andro caps I was using)......

Well after taking the Epi in the morning and adding in a Klonopin at night slept like a baby for 10 hours. Thanks for the help. This forum has info you just can't obtain from a "googling". Also seemed to have more energy yesterday from the Epi in the morning even though I had only slept about a total of 3 hours the two days before.

 

[BloodManor]

Hypnos is a life saver on cycle
Whenever I’m off of it I toss and turn all night

https://www.chaosandpain.com/hypnos-sleep-aid

 

[Renew1]

Well after taking the Epi in the morning and adding in a Klonopin at night slept like a baby for 10 hours. Thanks for the help. This forum has info you just can't obtain from a "googling". Also seemed to have more energy yesterday from the Epi in the morning even though I had only slept about a total of 3 hours the two days before.

That's good. BTW, I normally sleep well when I take a Klonopin too. LOL.

 

[Cgkone]

Well after taking the Epi in the morning and adding in a Klonopin at night slept like a baby for 10 hours. Thanks for the help. This forum has info you just can't obtain from a "googling". Also seemed to have more energy yesterday from the Epi in the morning even though I had only slept about a total of 3 hours the two days before.

So nightly Klonopin.?
I love Klonopin.......a little too much
I start abusing them real quick.

 

[Toren]

I've already gave some to two people and they both respond pretty much the same.
Yeah its pretty good.

That's good to hear. Did you play around with the dosing or the dose timing? What did you find worked best in those areas?

 

[Whisky]

Well after taking the Epi in the morning and adding in a Klonopin at night slept like a baby for 10 hours. Thanks for the help. This forum has info you just can't obtain from a "googling". Also seemed to have more energy yesterday from the Epi in the morning even though I had only slept about a total of 3 hours the two days before.

Glad to hear it bro - enjoy the rest of your cycle and get after dem gainz

 

[Angryotter80]

I'm currently running Andros and have been using melatonin and gaba. Mellows me out enough to get a good sleep.