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MEH89

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I was wondering if any one new of anything natural that helps you fall asleep, and improves the quality. I would like it to be natural, and able take it every night. Mark
 
Everynight...eeehhhh most sleep aids will build tolerance. BUT X-Dream is worth it from what i hear, soon to order. Melatonin kind of sucks. Search it an you'll get plenty. I have a few past thread/posts of detail on it. sometimes i do 6mgs for fun at night casue i like nightmares. just search sleep and you should get plenty
 
Valerian root I have tried but it takes about 5-6. Melatonin, it works but should be cycled on and off. There is phenibut, which worked pretty well for me, but gives a hangover in the morning.
 
I'm not that impressed with xdream. I like powerfull i sleep great on it and you feel great when taking it.
 
MentalTwitch said:
Everynight...eeehhhh most sleep aids will build tolerance. BUT X-Dream is worth it from what i hear, soon to order. Melatonin kind of sucks. Search it an you'll get plenty. I have a few past thread/posts of detail on it. sometimes i do 6mgs for fun at night casue i like nightmares. just search sleep and you should get plenty
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X-Dream is great but its better if you dose every other night at the most. At least for me anyway...
 
X-dream did nothing for me... I tried doses between 1-4 with no effect. I use a combo of Melatonin, hops, valerian root and skullcap for nights I need help falling asleep.
 
I'm not sure if it helps me fall asleep, but PowerFULL definitely improves my quality of sleep.
 
ZMA. It's cheap, it works, and it's good for you.

Take it about 30 minutes before you want to fall asleep. You'll sleep like a baby. No grogginess the next morning. Great stuff :box:
 
yea i second all the powerfull ideas in here...that seemed to help me get deeper sleep...and i do occasionally use valerian root(usually on like sunday to help me fall asleep after a weekend of bein up late and sleepin in) and while u can build tolerance to phenibut i found that its great to use a couple times a month to help give u refreshing sleep and recharge u
 
an alternative to powerfull is bulk 1-carboxy-blahblahblah at Nutra.....it is one of the main actives in USPlabs discontinued REM and also powerfull.
 
I've recently had good luck with ZMT. However the only sleep problem I have is my husband. He does not sleep at night so my body has re-wired itself to wake up constantly from him rolling around:(

edited to add I don't have problems falling asleep, just staying that way.
 
I'm a big melatonin and Powerfull fanatic. Melatonin gets me to sleep and P-Full enhances the sleep I get. I've used ZMA with some success but I don't seem to get the same effect after 4-5 weeks of continuous use. Might also want to look into Chamomile, GABA, and 5-HTP
 
pistonpump said:
get a script for ambien, stuff kicks butt.
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Ambien puts you to sleep but it does not keep you asleep which is my problem. I've been contemplating Ambien CR which has an immediate sleep aid component and a controlled release sleep aid to keep you asleep. As for natural sleep aides I like melatonin,velarian and zma did nothing for me but everyone is different and responds differently. Zma,valerian and melatonin are all relatively cheap to try.
 
Melatonin works for me. Sometimes I take it with two x dreams. X dream makes me wake up early in the morning for some reason and tends to give me nightmares of the emotional type.
 
Lacradocious said:
Melatonin works for me. Sometimes I take it with two x dreams. X dream makes me wake up early in the morning for some reason and tends to give me nightmares of the emotional type.
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The nightmares are fomr Melatonin. any dose over 2.5mg is shown to increase, hence why i take 6mg usually. Sometimes i wake up groggy sometimes not. X-Dreamis next in line for me.
Sleep aid is really hit or miss casue the reasons you are not sleeping well. Emotional, chemical, food, etc. The best way to go is to make sure you take any of the previous on an EMPTY stomach 30minutes before you LAY DOWN. You can not be awake watching tv. Also, make sure when trying different things follow the rec. dose and adjust from there and in the same ways.
I also use 5HTP but really doesnt help for sleep for me at least, more of a mid day to give me the more awake positive feeling.
 
Phenibut works awesome for me. Ive never slept through a whole night my entire life and ill take about 2 grams and sleep till morning. But I dont get the hangover like some people.
 
why was the rem product by usp discontinued? was it dangerous? i hope it wasnt i just finished a bottle of it like 2 months ago
 
heater1289 said:
why was the rem product by usp discontinued? was it dangerous? i hope it wasnt i just finished a bottle of it like 2 months ago
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I don't know exactly why it was discontinued, but it was not dangerous. The main ingredient in REM is still being sold as one of the ingredients in USP's PowerFULL, as well as in bulk at nutraplanet.
 
First off, buy the slow release melatonin formula. Kickstart your sleep with benadryl, and then the melatonin kicks in later on to keep you out. This is a good combo. If you must, take the kitchen sink approach and add gaba + zma + rhodiola + powerfull... etc etc.
 
I read a book called Say Good Night To Insomnia by Gregg Jacobs. It really changed my thinking on sleep habits. Since reading it I havent used a sleep aid and rely on my body to induce sleep and not an outside source.
 
I read a book by Gregg Jacobs/ Say Good Night to Insomnia. It really changed my thoughts on sleeping habits. Since reading it I havent used a sleep aid and rely on my body to induce sleep not an outside source.Peace
 
MEH89 said:
I was wondering if any one new of anything natural that helps you fall asleep, and improves the quality. I would like it to be natural, and able take it every night. Mark
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I personally use Z-Force by Dymatize I sleep like baby,good stuff. I have very vivid dreams on it though.
 
Ive tryed sleep stuff for about four years now.

Gaba it works

Phenibut is the best stuff Ive coem across. i sleep and I dont get up at all during the night.

Melatonin works ok

Zma-works ok fro what i remember. Its been a good three or more years SNAC brand is good

5-htp works ok but dont take it with other serotin drugs or youll have somethign called serotin syndrome which is nasty. youll throw up and feel weird.

I just do mediation and that works for me. It outs your mind in a slower tempy(alpha, delat, theta, beta) state of mind. calming oneself.
 
Hi Smeaton,

Why don't you try some X-Dreams and give some valuable feedback on it :) Sounds like you know your sleep stuff!

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
After trying all these thing s Ive finally found the thing that works like a charm-L-typtophan.

You must relize this may not work for everyone because everyones body chemistry is different and what effects me chemically may have a different effect on you.
 
don't go for overpriced supplements. you need you some simple melatonin you can get at walmart. but don't buy the 5mg stuff and pop the whole pill. studies have shown that 1mg is sufficient for any frame. too much will actually interfere with sleep, causing it to be fragmented.

a nice chaser to that lil' pill is all natural organically-grown valerian root tea. drink that **** up and tell me you ain't ready for a nap.

hope this helps, homie. this is what i do every single night.
 
oh, and i'm sure you know, but i'll say it just the same....make sure the pre-bed snack is light. maybe a couple eggs or a serving of cottage cheese.
 
Guys, I want to order some of these sleep aids but want to know a few things. I read that the Dymatize Z-Force is not real ZMA or something, is this true? Also, does it matter what brand of melatonin, Phenibut or GABA you get? I basically want good deep sleep and something that knocks me out and lets me dream well. Which of these supplements should I order??.. I doubt I need all of this stuff lol.
 
also, how do these sleep aids compare to diphenhydramine which is found in over the counter sleep meds like tylenol pm/night time, benadryl etc..
 
Weed! I am serious not being a smart ass. Of course it has to be an indica strain (Train Wreck, White Widow, Various "Kush" strains). I say indica, because that is the type of strain that really relaxes you makes you not want to do anything more of a lethargic body high. As opposed to a sativa that produces a more euphoric and energetic high. I dont mean you have to get "blown out of your mind" and smoke a joint or blunt to yourself. 3 good hits from a glass pipe should do the trick.
 
pistonpump said:
get a script for ambien, stuff kicks butt.
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heck ya, love ambien. it is pretty easy to get a script for too.

o and if you take 2 and make yourself stay awake you trip balls ... ummm .... well thats just waht iv heard haha:D:D:D

umm my "friend" said one night he had taken a few and his girlfriend came over, half way through sex thought i was in the rain forest, i mean "he" thought he was in the rainforest haha
 
sportsbro21 said:
heck ya, love ambien. it is pretty easy to get a script for too.

o and if you take 2 and make yourself stay awake you trip balls ... ummm .... well thats just waht iv heard haha:D:D:D

umm my "friend" said one night he had taken a few and his girlfriend came over, half way through sex thought i was in the rain forest, i mean "he" thought he was in the rainforest haha
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haha, yeah the stuff can make dreams reality lol. its actually a hypnotic.
 
The best my sleep has probably ever been was the first time I used Powerfull...

The original version... The newer version of powerfull also helps me sleep, but the effects ware out...

This combination also worked really well.

3 caps IGF-2
2 Caps Powerfull (orange cap)
1 cap Alpha-GPC

Holy s***... I was literally knocked the **** out.

My goal is to find something that enables me to lucid dream on a nightly basis... I have really good dream recall, but I'm still having a hard time mastering lucid dreaming. I find that just before I usually lucid dream, I deal with sleep paralysis... From here on, sometimes I am able to take control of my dream and do whatever I want. It's such an awesome feeling.

Anyways... Here are other supplements that I have tried and work at times...

L-theanine, Ashwagandha, Melatonin, Alri Venom Lean Dreams (sample pack I tried), ZMA...

MAN Blueprint improves my sleep quality. Rhodiola Rosea also improves my sleep quality.

Does anyone have any tips on how to master lucid dreaming? If I had the money I would invest into the frequency thing that is available... I understand there is a tea that is available, but I can't remember the name for it. I guess it's time to google away again...
 
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