simple cutter....

ryanbodybuilder

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should I:

a) 1-6 test prop 100mg eod
1-5 winny 50mg ed
3-5 t2 300mcg ed
b) 1-6 test prop 100mg eod
1-6 tren ace 75mg eod
3-5 t2 300mcg ed

also I would use hcg if I use tren, but should I still use hcg on the prop/winny version?
 
hcg won't hurt at all

i would go with B .. don't konw anything about t2 though ... why not go 8 weeks :)
 
Aren't you on a bulker right now ? hehe

No point in using winny unless you're already at a low body fat. Which from your pics you don't seem to be :D
 
yea i am bulking now...and thanks about the comment skinny little guy..hahaha..this is for a cutter later on....yea i suppose i should do b first, then a after I am lower say around 7-9% bf?
 
Even a little higher than that I'd say it'd be worth it. Like 10-12% range. I'm probably around 12% right now and I got some good striations and vascularity going so I could probably benefit visually from some winny.
 
IMHO HCG isn't really necessary for 6 weeks or less, even with something that will shut you down as hard as tren.

Also I'm biased because I really like winny a lot. :head:

I like both bro.. both plans.. I'd roll the dice or flip a coin if it was me. :D
 
Thanks guys...I think I am going to cut down to about 11% with a 6 weeker of test/tren/t2, then 12 weeks off, and then a 6 weeker of winny/test/t2 to try and get down closer to 9% or so....yes I am a fat bulking bastard at about 16% now...
 
i dont know much about t2 but i know that tren + a good diet will melt that fat off of you real fast!

Bump on glens opinion about the HCG though...i would never run tren without it...shuts me down too hard.

regards and good luck bro,
COTC
 
yea i would use hcg with tren, but maybe not with a test/winny combo.....but i dont think i will run winny for quite sometime.....i plan on 2 test/tren cutters next late winter and summer timeframe
 
If you ask me... hcg is pretty darn cheap for a 10 week supply, It's only going to help with tren and well worth the 20-40 USD for 5000iu. :)

Bump on cycle number 2... save winny for the final few hurdles.

Also, t3 ain't all that dangerous... Its safer then trimac from everything i have read... just be sure to ramp up and see how it effects you... I'd imagine you probably won't even notice sides to much at 100mcg combined with test.
 
hey to any of you that have used tren ace with test prop...do you think I will have any sexual side effects if I only use 100mg of test eod with 75-100mg of tren ace eod?
 
ABiLiTY said:
300mcg is real high for t3 no?
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Ummm... YES!!!

Where did you read 300mcg? I wouldn't go over 125mcg... and I may just stick to 100mcg.

EDIT... I see now.. he was suggesting 300mcg of t2, which is different then t3.
 
ryanbodybuilder said:
hey to any of you that have used tren ace with test prop...do you think I will have any sexual side effects if I only use 100mg of test eod with 75-100mg of tren ace eod?
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You shouldnt have any sexual sides at all, I have tried a short cycle at exactly that dose with prop/tren and didnt have any problems. Also if you are running HCG, you definetly wont be having any problems. I think as long as you are getting at least 200mg/week test your libido should be fine with tren up to 500mg/week, just enough test to at least keep you in the normal range, I know you are running more test than that, just saying from what I have seen on people who dont like the bloat from test in their cutters will run around 200-250mg/week of test with alot higher dose of tren and dont have any problems, but I am a big advocate of test, so jack it up:D
 
nice! yea I will definately use hcg at 500iu/wk....i am looking for completely dry gains which is why i am using such a low dose of test..originally i was only going to use eq
 
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