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Silva vs. Hendo at Pride 33?

jas123

jas123

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MMA Weekly is reporting this fight as the main event for Pride 33. I'm not really too excited about it in that both have legit contenders in each of their respective divisions. It should be entertaining, though, and Pride seems to want to build up Wandy by putting him against an American as they did in the last show with others.
 
In their first fight, Silva controlled Henderson for most of the fight. Henderson did rattle Silva with a few big shots at one point and put a large hematoma above Silva's eye. But for the majority of it, Silva attakced and controlled.

I certainly look forward to watching them fight again as I enjoy both of them, but I agree that fights for each fighter against an opponent in the same weight class would be nice.
 
That was the first time I had watched Henderson fight and the main thing that I remember is that he is a tough SOB. Silva stomped him, but he remained so composed and Silva could not finish him.
 
What is the weight difference here and how can they get away with that in Vegas?

Or is Hendo going to bulk up?
 
I would imagine Hendo will bulk up as you said, as opposed to Wandy cutting weight. I think Hendo has fought in Wandy's class before though, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem for him.
 
They are definitely fighting at 205. Hendo may come in a little heavier, probably 195 or so. I believe as long as he is over 186 he is good to go in the 205 division. I think the heaviest Hendo has fought at is 195. I really wanted to see Lil Nog get a shot, but who doesn't. It should be a great fight, Hendo always fights up to the level of competition.
 
Sir Savage said:
What is the weight difference here and how can they get away with that in Vegas?

Or is Hendo going to bulk up?
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Hendo's fought at MW for most his Pride career since the WW division is fairly new. He's weighed in at 199 before and I think he was 194 against Vitor. He said in his post-fight interview after Vitor that he usually cuts down from about 194 for WW. I think he'll come in around 200 assuming MMAWeekly is right about this fight (which is why I put the question mark).

The rules in the US (and probably testing) hurt Wandy's game a lot so maybe I am somewhat glad that he will fight Rogerio or Arona later hopefully in Japan.
 
jas123 said:
Hendo's fought at MW for most his Pride career since the WW division is fairly new. He's weighed in at 199 before and I think he was 194 against Vitor. He said in his post-fight interview after Vitor that he usually cuts down from about 194 for WW. I think he'll come in around 200 assuming MMAWeekly is right about this fight (which is why I put the question mark).

The rules in the US (and probably testing) hurt Wandy's game a lot so maybe I am somewhat glad that he will fight Rogerio or Arona later hopefully in Japan.
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Yeah, 199lbs was what I was thinking for Hendo. I think, as you said, that US's rules will favor Hendo over Wandy. Though, despite what alot of people say, one needs to take into account how Wandy gets people to the ground for those head kicks, as opposed to just the fact he throws them when they are down there.
 
jas123 said:
Hendo's fought at MW for most his Pride career since the WW division is fairly new. He's weighed in at 199 before and I think he was 194 against Vitor. He said in his post-fight interview after Vitor that he usually cuts down from about 194 for WW. I think he'll come in around 200 assuming MMAWeekly is right about this fight (which is why I put the question mark).

The rules in the US (and probably testing) hurt Wandy's game a lot so maybe I am somewhat glad that he will fight Rogerio or Arona later hopefully in Japan.
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Yeah, I didn't really think about that. Rogerio and Arona would most likely beat Wandy under US rules, but in Japan I see it going differently. US rules blow IMO.
 
Oh yeah, forgot Hendo fought at 205 for a long time. He's a very small 205er, though.

Hell, he looks like a small 183er.
 
Alexander said:
Arona would most likely beat Wandy under US rules, but in Japan I see it going differently. US rules blow IMO.
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Arona has already fought Silva twice. He one once via unanimous decision and lost the second to a split decision.
 
size said:
Arona has already fought Silva twice. He one once via unanimous decision and lost the second to a split decision.
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rona seemed like he fought scared in both of the Wandy fights and just tried to neutralize Wandy. Definitely not a fun fight to watch; in most of his other fights, Arona is at least attempting something, but he just played for position.
 
size said:
Arona has already fought Silva twice. He one once via unanimous decision and lost the second to a split decision.
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Of course I've seen those fights. What did I say to imply that I hadn't? I said IMO Wandy would have a better chance of beating Arona or Rogerio under Pride rules, or Hendo for that matter, but I don't see Hendo beating Wandy regardless.
 
I'm sure this will be a good fight. They are both warriors. But it really is ridiculous the way PRIDE allows so many non-title fights. I really don't get it. The last time Wandy defended his belt was NYE--over a year ago!
I think Hendo's last defense was on the same night (other fights were Bushido vs. Misaki, and vs. Belfort).
 
I agree, I feel that it will be an awesome fight, but having a title on the line just adds such a greater degree of drama.
 
Alexander said:
Of course I've seen those fights. What did I say to imply that I hadn't? I said IMO Wandy would have a better chance of beating Arona or Rogerio under Pride rules, or Hendo for that matter, but I don't see Hendo beating Wandy regardless.
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I misinterpretted your post, my apologies.
 
Thanks Rogue, I missed that interview. Wanderlei is hilarious, they ask him how it feels to knock someone out and he responds with "very happy". "What's your best weapon" Wandy responds with "knee.......punch.....kick to the face". You think Wandy will finish(ko/tko) Hendo this time? I do.
 
Rogue Drone said:
I do too. I think that the usual 183 pound fighting weight Henderson, who's been gassing lately, will fade even more so when he fights at ~200 and that the extra mass will screw up his timing.

I see Hendo being competitive for the first few minutes, than the better natural LH skills of Wandy taking him out.

Wandy had this issue when he outweighted Mirko at the OWGP, too heavy to fight at his best. He apparently gained mass to emphasizes his groundgame,to no avail, and it threw his striking way off, I think.
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Wandy is very aggressive fighter by nature, and he really went for it with crocop. I don't really feel his change in weight had anything to do with his loss... He just tried to chase around a counterpuncher, which is exactly what you don't want to do.
 
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