Todd boliek
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What's the best ssupplement to help heal from a oc separation?
Shoulder pain?
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Rich Bert
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Go see a doctor, you won't be sorry down the road.
Look at the long road and not the quick fix.
cheftepesh1
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Supps are really not going to help with that. You can use Kratom or CBD for pain management but overall need a doctor on this,
Solexsight
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Kratom is awesome for pain.
Rad83
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Solexsight cheftepesh1
Can you guys recommend a kratom strain? Recently heard by a reputable guy that the strains don’t matter....I’ve never tried it, but watched the Netflix documentary and am highly interested...Currently loving CBD oil! (Thanks, sorry to intrude on thread)
Can you guys recommend a kratom strain? Recently heard by a reputable guy that the strains don’t matter....I’ve never tried it, but watched the Netflix documentary and am highly interested...Currently loving CBD oil! (Thanks, sorry to intrude on thread)
LeanEngineer
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I know a few older people that went on CBD oil and they said it helped with aches and pains from their arthritis.
Aleksandar37
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another vote for going to see a physician
Rich Bert
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whats older ? you must be under 25.....lol
cheftepesh1
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Never used Kratom, due to hearing how it can be addictive. CBD has worked well for me. I even tried vape recently. Not my favorite but helps.
Solexsight
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Strains absolutely matter. For pain get red strain..not as much euphoria but pain relief is best..red. for a total pain killer, get OPMS gold. One cap of that and you are 100% pain free..careful though that will shoot your tolerance up.
Delboss731
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Go see a doc for sure but stable supps for me are cissus quadrangularis, turmeric, msm, glucosamine, chondroitin, also collagen helps. But if you have more than just pain like a tear, break, separation see a doctor. But those supplements are excellent health beneficial products. I take them everyday.
jaredmus
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Yeah man go see a doctor. I am currently nursing a slightly strained rotator cuff myself. Went to the doctor he said take 3-4 weeks off of weights as I just did. Today was my first day back I trained very light did an extensive warm up and did a few exercises for every body part to see if anything would bother it. I think I just feel normal soreness. But will not lift weights again until wednesday of next week. And instead of full body will just be doing some light rows,and shoulder rehab exercises. I am taking advil liquid gels as well. Along with 2 servings a day of core flex powder. I liked orthogen by morphogen nutrition but its backordered.
Best advice get it checked out...my shoulder was bothering me 5-7 months ago. Slowly I started getting rid of exercises that bothered it til there was nothing left. So probably did a lot of damage instead of seeing a doctor right when it started
Best advice get it checked out...my shoulder was bothering me 5-7 months ago. Slowly I started getting rid of exercises that bothered it til there was nothing left. So probably did a lot of damage instead of seeing a doctor right when it started
LeanEngineer
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Yep. Overall i would agree with the others and say go see a physician.
saderboy80
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First off if it’s an AC separation you don’t need to see a doc. They will tell you ibuprofen/ice and a sling for 2 weeks as long as an ortho consult. An ortho doc will just say ibuprofen/ice and no sling.
money0351 why would you go see a PT when they will refer you to a general practitioner. Who then will refer you to an orthopedist. Save the money don’t see a PT, general practitioner or orthopedist; and ice it/ibuprofen.
jaredmus you have a slightly strained rotator cuff and have been nursing it for 5-7 months?
If you have a tear (ligament, tendon or muscle) or DISLOCATED (different then separated) your shoulder then see an ortho doc (not a PT or general practitioner). Not a strain or a sprain which medically are insignificant. Aka: don’t waste your money!
money0351 why would you go see a PT when they will refer you to a general practitioner. Who then will refer you to an orthopedist. Save the money don’t see a PT, general practitioner or orthopedist; and ice it/ibuprofen.
jaredmus you have a slightly strained rotator cuff and have been nursing it for 5-7 months?
If you have a tear (ligament, tendon or muscle) or DISLOCATED (different then separated) your shoulder then see an ortho doc (not a PT or general practitioner). Not a strain or a sprain which medically are insignificant. Aka: don’t waste your money!
jaredmus
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It was variety of problems all stemming from the rotator cuff actually. AC Joint pain as well. Slight bursitis.. hasn't been a fun year
money0351
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Why would the PT refer out when the pt. Could benefit from skilled intervention?
IV, V, and VI are the only types of separations that would really require referrals to GP or orthopedist.
Grades I, III, and III would benefit from Ther Ex in order to increase dynamic stabilization of the shoulder girdle
saderboy80
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Speaking of physical therapy. In this case study the patient (whom was a PT for over 30yrs) preferentially chose ‘benign neglect’ as his treatment for a grade 3 ac separation.
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All of these studies aim to prove that benign neglect is a more successful treatment then even surgical procedures for a grade 3 tear.
So if you have a grade 1-3 the most successful treatment option is benign neglect and pain management with ice/ibuprofen/sling....exactly as I stated earlier.
Don’t waste your money on PT for “dynamic stabilization of the shoulder girdle”.
money0351
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I’m well aware of what the literature supports in regards to benign/supervised neglect
The issue isn’t correcting the displacement of the clavicle, but rather ruling out other pathologies which can commonly occur with AC separations depending on the MOI (such as SLAP tear and RC tears)[1] both of which can be found during an upper quarter examination, in addition to addressing the altered arthrokinematics (posterior rotation of the clavicle), especially in overhead movements.
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poison
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Benign neglect, lol. Two grade 4 AC separations here, I have a little experience with this. I told my ortho to suck it after 3 months of copays for him to tell me 'keep doing nothing', and finished up rehab myself. The second one I didn't bother, did it again myself, but better.
saderboy80
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I’m well aware of what the literature supports in regards to benign/supervised neglect
The issue isn’t correcting the displacement of the clavicle, but rather ruling out other pathologies which can commonly occur with AC separations depending on the MOI (such as SLAP tear and RC tears)[1] both of which can be found during an upper quarter examination, in addition to addressing the altered arthrokinematics (posterior rotation of the clavicle), especially in overhead movements.
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The OP said he had an AC separation and nothing else. Hence why I said to not see a physician or PT, along with the overwhelming evidence that an AC separation needs nothing to be done.
However, if you read my previous post I said if there are any other injuries secondary to the AC separation then the OP needs to see an Ortho doc. Not a PT!
You yourself said the PT will do his examination and if there’s any other injuries he will refer him to an ortho. Why not save money and time and cut out the middle man?
saderboy80
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So you are literally saying that benign neglect worked better for you then constantly wasting time and money seeing an ortho...