Sesathin and ECA?

[psywzrd]

I just got my order of Sesathin so I'm finally going to get to see firsthand what all the hype is about. I was thinking of running some ECA with it to really crank up the fat burning (need to lost the last bit of fat around my abs). Is this recommended or should I not use the ECA with it?

I'm already pretty lean but I tend to hold a little extra fat around my mid-section (I'm still lean there too but I'm trying to get my six-pack to come out). I've used quite a bit of ECA in the past and I tolerate it well so there aren't any problems there.

I would imagine this is ok since Sesathin isn't a stimulant but just wanted to make sure before I proceed. Thanks guys.

 

[prolangtum]

there is no negative interaction

 

[psywzrd]

there is no negative interaction

Thanks, pro. Assuming I'm eating right at maintenance level or slightly below (with plenty of protein of course), do I risk losing muscle with this combination? If so, is it ok to eat slightly above maintenance to spare muscle? This assumes, of course, that I can still lose fat while eating slightly above maintenance.

 

[MaynardMeek]

I am actually doing something like what you are doing, but with the addition of Camph and ciss.RX I have noticed a very good increase in muscle mass. though i didn't have much in the area of body fat anyway, we all have our "trouble" spots, and I can say that even those areas on me are becoming more defined...

 

[prolangtum]

Thanks, pro. Assuming I'm eating right at maintenance level or slightly below (with plenty of protein of course), do I risk losing muscle with this combination? If so, is it ok to eat slightly above maintenance to spare muscle? This assumes, of course, that I can still lose fat while eating slightly above maintenance.

it would be damn near impossible given what supplements your using to lose fat while above maintenance unless you add an androgen, dnp, or thyroid hormone. If your doing everything properly, you shouldnt lose much muscle in a small deficit (iie ~500 cals). This is regardless of e/c/a and SesaThin.

 

[MaynardMeek]

how would , if there would be any, interaction between taking milk thistle for those that are using some sort of androgen or UA etc. whilst they use sesathin. i know sesathin's magic works in the liver and would wonder if milk thistle would negate anything

 

[psywzrd]

it would be damn near impossible given what supplements your using to lose fat while above maintenance unless you add an androgen, dnp, or thyroid hormone. If your doing everything properly, you shouldnt lose much muscle in a small deficit (iie ~500 cals). This is regardless of e/c/a and SesaThin.

pro:

Androgens and dnp are out of the question for me and I'd like to stay away from thyroid hormones since thyroid problems run in my family. Ideally, I'd like to trade 2-3 lbs. of fat for an equal amount of muscle. Is there anything else I can take that will help me accomplish this? My diet is clean and I get plenty of protein and I need to stay away from anything that could potentially make me break out. I'm very prone to breakouts (even creatine makes me break out) and I know that drastically limits my options, but is there anything out there that will help me accomplish my goal?

 

[prolangtum]

trying to lose fat and gain muscle sans androgens is almost impossible. Either try to cut, than bulk, or bulk a bit and than cut. SesaThin can help you in both, one to help speed fat loss, and as an anti fat gain agent on a bulk. But the muscle gain is going to be much harder work.

 

[psywzrd]

trying to lose fat and gain muscle sans androgens is almost impossible. Either try to cut, than bulk, or bulk a bit and than cut. SesaThin can help you in both, one to help speed fat loss, and as an anti fat gain agent on a bulk. But the muscle gain is going to be much harder work.

Thanks, pro. Since summer is here and I already started my Sesathin/ECA regimen, I'll stick with cutting first. Maybe I'll try to add a few pounds after the summer.