Yeah my guys got me, I can't afford em but I want em. I'd run them with ghrp/ghrh, 2-3 iu about 10 mins after my ghrp/ghrh injections at 3x a day. I'm not a fan of blasting them but I know people who have. They all say u got to run them for 6 months. If u get. If u get legit ones ur gtg it just depends on it source