SERM vs AI with trest

[RickyBlobby]

Just wondering what the consensus is on using nolva instead of formestane to combat estrogen sides whilst on a trestobol cycle

Pros and cons of each?

 

[LeanEngineer]

Really a SERM is the best way to go. You dont need an AI post cycle. It is option because you dont want to bring your estrogen levels too low.

 

[RickyBlobby]

I'm not talking post cycle, I mean on cycle

 

[RickyBlobby]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you just ran a serm no AI you would still get the water retention just no gyno, right?

 

[yates84]

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[Abe Lincoln]

Forma on cycle. Nolva later on IMO.

 

[mountainman33]

You'd want an AI while on cycle, really only if you're getting sides, or extreme water retention. But Dermacrine or Formeron are the usual suspects and work well.

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[Abe Lincoln]

Form more tho^. Dermacrine has a builtin AI, but it won't combat trest estrogen sides.

 

[stann123]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you just ran a serm no AI you would still get the water retention just no gyno, right?

High levels of estrogen also cause other problems

 

[RickyBlobby]

^ Right, and since Trest does NOT 5-alpha-reduce to DHT, and your natural testosterone (DHT) production is shut down, you would probably end up with a very very low DHT/ estradiol ratio.

Does this make sense?