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SERM Mandatory for 1-andro???

gator2

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So after asking around here and reading I decided to up my dosage and cycle length of 1-andro to:

2/3/3/4/5/5

I initially planned for my post cycle to be PCT Black Revolution (which has the Arimistane). But with this extended length/dosage of 1-andro, would I have to get a SERM? Keep in mind this is my first cycle. Thanks
 
For your first cycle I would recommend a serm. I always run a serm after anything supressive. You can check out our andro 1 info page at Strong Supplement Shop though as well.
 
Even if it WASN'T your first cycle you would need SERM. Why chance lagging production with an OTC PCT when a SERM can get it back so much faster and help you keep what you worked to earn?
 
I wanted to minimize the amount of things I put in my body if the end result is the same. Since OTC pct is "softer" I wanted to go with that if you guys have noticed no difference when running 1-andro
 
OTC PCT takes longer to restart natural production increasing your chances of losing some of the mass you gained. If you're putting OTC PCT products in your body what's the difference of that vs. a SERM?
 
Softer???

If your otc pct fails something is def going to be softer.

If your dead set going otc check out rebirth and viron. And no, im not a rep pushing products, that just seems to be the best option talked about
 
Mountainman- Since a SERM is a pharmaceutical that binds to various receptors in the body, I wanted to not ingest it if it doesn't matter on mild cycle like mine. But I see where you are coming from. What SERMs do you recommend and at what dose?

Smont- Thanks man, I'll read about those. I'm not deadset, just trying to get opinions for those with experience
 
gator2 said:
Mountainman- Since a SERM is a pharmaceutical that binds to various receptors in the body, I wanted to not ingest it if it doesn't matter on mild cycle like mine. But I see where you are coming from. What SERMs do you recommend and at what dose?

Smont- Thanks man, I'll read about those. I'm not deadset, just trying to get opinions for those with experience
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OTC things bind to receptors as well. Everything you injest will bind to something to cause something to happen. Clomid will probably be a lil rough on the mood and emotion end, but nolva is almost side effect free and I've never had an issue. Nolva at 20/20/10/10 is the standard
 
Yea in pct ive always combined an otc pct with a serm. The pct products help with initial mood and libido more than anything
 
Ingesting 1-Andro, but not wanting to ingest Clomid/Nolva.... seems strange to me :) But to each their own. I had no sides from Clomid at 40/40/20/20, but people are different. I will now be doing the Blergs/StanleyG 'Dual SERM PCT' from now on though :)
 
I was thinking about rebirth and viron for a pct after lgd-4033 at a 6mg for 45 days. Any one run rebirth after a cycle?
 
dvw said:
I was thinking about rebirth and viron for a pct after lgd-4033 at a 6mg for 45 days. Any one run rebirth after a cycle?
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I did after Trest. Ran it with Viron.

Starting PCT with total T 62. Ending total T 445

Before cycle I was 420 total T
 
First blood test I've seen of rebirth/viron. Thanks Vujade! Have you run a pharmaceutical serm before? And how'd it compare?
 
gator2 said:
First blood test I've seen of rebirth/viron. Thanks Vujade! Have you run a pharmaceutical serm before?
And how'd it compare?
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I would say a pharma/rc SERM kicks in faster but overall Rebirth did great for me, just took a little longer to feel normal again.
But on the plus side, I didn't experience any side effects or do any damage to my liver during PCT :)
 
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