Semax

ELROCK said:
I do notice an increase in focus from it (nothing special though) but my short term memory seemed to take a hit while the Noopept was wearing off.
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I heard it only really works if there's some kind of deficiency in the brain or just neurotransmitters not all topped up. So from what I understand it's a good thing you didn't respond to it. That's mean your probably doing good!
 
ELROCK said:
I think the NA-Semax seems the most noticeable for me. I get the same effects as the other two versions just slightly more pronounced.
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It's odd like I am the alpha Ready to destroy all weights (that's how I feel right now) I want to walk around like and do... Something!!! Then after the semax (2* 300mcg) I'm still the alpha bull but I have a plan...

How long does it last for you guys? I get 5 good hours.

That's the worst ****ing analogy I ever wrote lol.
 
Also I am taking super 11 and Super 7 because I already have high cortisol I'm running gear at the moment end I'm using peptides

now because semax mimics ATCH I wonder if I'm only getting half the benefit because I'm already crushing cortisol and on top of that the gear I'm running is already making me feel fantastic it's just like the semax ads a little Focus
 
sespress said:
It's odd like I am the alpha Ready to destroy all weights (that's how I feel right now) I want to walk around like and do... Something!!! Then after the semax (2* 300mcg) I'm still the alpha bull but I have a plan...

How long does it last for you guys? I get 5 good hours.

That's the worst ****ing analogy I ever wrote lol.
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I get you. I seem to be planning better and thinking better on my feet. I like stacking the two, but I will take tomorrow off from the PRL. I will stack them again on Friday and see if it's as good as it was today.
 
ELROCK said:
I get you. I seem to be planning better and thinking better on my feet. I like stacking the two, but I will take tomorrow off from the PRL. I will stack them again on Friday and see if it's as good as it was today.
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My PRL Just arrived I'll have to sit down and cap it all. What dose did you start at?
 
sespress said:
My PRL Just arrived I'll have to sit down and cap it all. What dose did you start at?
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I started at 8 mg then went to 10mg and yesterday I tried 12 mg. Most people are using 5-20mg doses, but the average dose seems to be at 10mg.
 
ELROCK said:
Today was my first day of adding 12 mg PRL 8-53 (6 day taking, but not on consecutive days) with (2 spays) NA-Semax (plus 1 coffee) and it made for a pretty great day! Since this is the first day of the stack it could very well just be placebo, but definitely great verbal recall, verbal fluency and mental clarity. I just felt on point all day!

I will start a PRL 8-53 thread on here soon.

Edit: corrected the PRL 8-53 dose. It was 12 mg today not my 10 mg usual dose.
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Tagged me in that thread and link it here please and thank you :)
 
ELROCK said:
I get you. I seem to be planning better and thinking better on my feet. I like stacking the two, but I will take tomorrow off from the PRL. I will stack them again on Friday and see if it's as good as it was today.
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I don't think it works like that since one it's not actually ACTH and that ACTH is already "active" so suppression of cortisol shouldnt effect it whatsoever in MY opinion but I am no expert whatsoever on hormones or nootropics soooo take it as you will
 
rtmilburn said:
I don't think it works like that since one it's not actually ACTH and that ACTH is already "active" so suppression of cortisol shouldnt effect it whatsoever in MY opinion but I am no expert whatsoever on hormones or nootropics soooo take it as you will
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I don't think supression I am curious if it's causing increased cortisol or effects on the other feedback loops that cortisol plays in tht body.

I'm saying I'm also that anything cortisol does increase energy a bit so Is this playing on that same pathways? Perhaps beating out another natural hormonal loop and confusion the adrenal glands?

I'm actually high on the Cort numbers anyways, Just ordered another blood test for general CBC and Cort now that I'm on cycle again and taking oral 7-keto and super 11 TD to keep that number down. So it'll be interesting if it's still up despite that or if use of Semax-NA throws the test a loop. I'm willing to bet I'm slightly lower than I should be now but with Peptides and gear and now something playing on ATCH I wouldn't be surprised if that whole system went bonkers.
 
rtmilburn said:
I don't think it works like that since one it's not actually ACTH and that ACTH is already "active" so suppression of cortisol shouldnt effect it whatsoever in MY opinion but I am no expert whatsoever on hormones or nootropics soooo take it as you will
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Was this directed at me or Sespress? I haven't brought up Semax's effects on cortisol levels.
 
sespress said:
I don't think supression I am curious if it's causing increased cortisol or effects on the other feedback loops that cortisol plays in tht body.

I'm saying I'm also that anything cortisol does increase energy a bit so Is this playing on that same pathways? Perhaps beating out another natural hormonal loop and confusion the adrenal glands?

I'm actually high on the Cort numbers anyways, Just ordered another blood test for general CBC and Cort now that I'm on cycle again and taking oral 7-keto and super 11 TD to keep that number down. So it'll be interesting if it's still up despite that or if use of Semax-NA throws the test a loop. I'm willing to bet I'm slightly lower than I should be now but with Peptides and gear and now something playing on ATCH I wouldn't be surprised if that whole system went bonkers.
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If anything I would image semax suppressed cortisol more. So I woud be surprised if with 7kdhea and 11kt and semax if cortisol numbers were high my GUESS would be on low end of normal due to gear and peps raising it up when it probably would next to nothing other wise. IMO even if numbers are fine I would consider adding pregnenolone!!!

One it's great for energy (even before it converts to anything).

Two it's a great nootropic.

Three it will turn into cortisol BUT ONLY TENDS TO CONVERT TO CORTISOL WHEN THE BODY IS DEFICIENT.

Four it will help the libido.

Five help negate some of the side effects of both the peptides and gear.
 
ELROCK said:
Was this directed at me or Sespress? I haven't brought up Semax's effects on cortisol levels.
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Sespress. Sorry if I didn't clarify properly as I meant to qoute him not you.

Also I'm running on 5 total hours of sleep in the past 3days. But thats what happens when I decided to work 40+s hours and take 16 credits my very first real semester of college and take mostly 200 level classes
 
rtmilburn said:
Sespress. Sorry if I didn't clarify properly as I meant to qoute him not you.

Also I'm running on 5 total hours of sleep in the past 3days. But thats what happens when I decided to work 40+s hours and take 16 credits my very first real semester of college and take mostly 200 level classes
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No worries bro! I been there!
 
ELROCK said:
Today was my first day of adding 12 mg PRL 8-53 (6 day taking, but not on consecutive days) with (2 spays) NA-Semax (plus 1 coffee) and it made for a pretty great day! Since this is the first day of the stack it could very well just be placebo, but definitely great verbal recall, verbal fluency and mental clarity. I just felt on point all day!

I will start a PRL 8-53 thread on here soon.

Edit: corrected the PRL 8-53 dose. It was 12 mg today not my 10 mg usual dose.
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Well I said I would take today off from the Semax/PRL combo, but I couldn't help myself as I had an important meeting with a potential new client. The meeting went incredibly well and I was as sharp mentally as I have ever been! I believe this combo (2 sprays NA-Semax + 12 mg PRL + 1 cup coffee) is for real.

-increased productivity ?
-verbal recall ?
-verbal fluency ?
-mental sharpness ?

I feel my short term memory has improved with PRL 8-53, but I have not done any specific testing to back that up.
 
^ I will take Tomorrow off from the stack. I will try doing the stack every 3rd day or every other day.
 
Another great meeting with another potential client while using this stack (NA-Semax + PRL + shot of espresso)!
 
Alright finally pulled the trigger on some N-acetyl Semax spray, 100mg per spray. What do yall recommend starting with dosage wise? Also any benefits dosing with ALCAR or Choline or anything else. First time using this so any tips/tricks is greatly welcomed :)
 
carguy123 said:
Alright finally pulled the trigger on some N-acetyl Semax spray, 100mg per spray. What do yall recommend starting with dosage wise? Also any benefits dosing with ALCAR or Choline or anything else. First time using this so any tips/tricks is greatly welcomed :)
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You know that spray is low for my tastes. I use the 300 one per nostril on waking. But try 100 per nostril to start with. It's not going to make you butter or crash. It's different than any normal stim. I'll use it up to twice a week.
 
sespress said:
You know that spray is low for my tastes. I use the 300 one per nostril on waking. But try 100 per nostril to start with. It's not going to make you butter or crash. It's different than any normal stim. I'll use it up to twice a week.
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That was also a option (the 300mg per spray) but since this is my first time using did not want to jump right into the big bottle haha. But thanks for the feedback, also good call forgot to ask how many times a week you guys are using
 
Yeah, start with one spray in each nostril in the morning. My first bottle of Semax I used it everyday. Now I use the NA-Semax 2-3x per week.
 
ELROCK said:
Yeah, start with one spray in each nostril in the morning. My first bottle of Semax I used it everyday. Now I use the NA-Semax 2-3x per week.
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Seems better when it's not a daily administration. I've actually not touched mine in well a while I just thought about it when I replied. But in general wouldn't do it everyday.
 
When I first got my bottle of NA Semax, I did 300mcgs everyday like everyone else. Now I do 300mcg 5 days on/ 2 off. I am on a 2 week break with all my noots, I am logging Nootropimax and want to see how it works solo.
 
carguy123 said:
Looks like the package got delivered today, might wait until the weekend to give it a go. Not a fan of testing new stuff before I head to work for the day(learned this the hard way before haha)
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Good plan man! Did you get it in powder form or pre-mixed? If pre-mixed did it come with a mini ice pack to keep from getting too hot?
 
ELROCK said:
Good plan man! Did you get it in powder form or pre-mixed? If pre-mixed did it come with a mini ice pack to keep from getting too hot?
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Funny thing is it came seperate, the semax was in a small glass jar and the solution in the sprayer. I was confused so I had to email the place I bought it from. I'm still at work but my gf had today off so I had her open the package just to make sure nothing was broken and she was like wtf is this stuff.
 
It's not a big deal and easy to mix. I do just order it pre-mixed with the climate control option.
 
carguy123 said:
Funny thing is it came seperate, the semax was in a small glass jar and the solution in the sprayer. I was confused so I had to email the place I bought it from. I'm still at work but my gf had today off so I had her open the package just to make sure nothing was broken and she was like wtf is this stuff.
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It is shipped like this so it does not degrade the Semax.Once you mix it, keep it in the fridge.
 
JohnP. said:
It is shipped like this so it does not degrade the Semax.Once you mix it, keep it in the fridge.
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Thanks :)

I have a feeling the deeper I get into noots the more and more I am going to want to try. Already looking at finding some flmodafinil next haha
 
carguy123 said:
Thanks :)

I have a feeling the deeper I get into noots the more and more I am going to want to try. Already looking at finding some flmodafinil next haha
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Haha.... I hear ya! Semax + finil is an amazing stack for those days where you need to get crazy amounts done. I do it once a month usually.
 
I definitely agree that NA Semax Amidate works better used intermittently, even though there is no tolerance in theory (actually the Russian literature shows reverse tolerance!). I just finished off my bottle today with a 1.2mg dose - feels good. I don't think I will be re-ordering though due to how expensive it is, maybe in the future. Also done my bottle of P21. I have been pretty disappointed with P21, it most certainly did not live up to its hype and I don't see any long-term benefits.

I ordered Orexin-A from Ceretropic, will let you guys know how that goes. I'm very excited because I think it might solve my delayed sleep phase disorder issues. I have a feeling this might be a game-changer (for me at least).
 
Hyperfluxe said:
I definitely agree that NA Semax Amidate works better used intermittently, even though there is no tolerance in theory (actually the Russian literature shows reverse tolerance!). I just finished off my bottle today with a 1.2mg dose - feels good. I don't think I will be re-ordering though due to how expensive it is, maybe in the future. Also done my bottle of P21. I have been pretty disappointed with P21, it most certainly did not live up to its hype and I don't see any long-term benefits.

I ordered Orexin-A from Ceretropic, will let you guys know how that goes. I'm very excited because I think it might solve my delayed sleep phase disorder issues. I have a feeling this might be a game-changer (for me at least).
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Good input. Have you tried PRL 8-53 before? It has really impressed me as far as social interactions, verbal recall, verbal fluency and best of all improved short term memory. I am taking a month break from it, but I was using it 2-3 times per week. It stacks perfectly with NA-Semax. When I take it solo I get all of the above benefits, but it's subtle. When I combine it with NA-Semax it is significantly improved.
 
ELROCK said:
I am looking forward to starting this combo back up!
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Have some NASemax on hand that I have only used a handful time so far, but I think I like it haha. Ever notice the next day you are in a fog or seem to be dehydrated? Not 100% sure I can tie the 2 together but something I have noticed and am going to pay closer attention to when I use again in the future.
 
carguy123 said:
Have some NASemax on hand that I have only used a handful time so far, but I think I like it haha. Ever notice the next day you are in a fog or seem to be dehydrated? Not 100% sure I can tie the 2 together but something I have noticed and am going to pay closer attention to when I use again in the future.
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No noticeable next day side effects for me. The only time is when I take it with Modafinil then I usually feel pretty drained the next day. Modafinil alone does that to me.
 
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