Second cycle with Epistane, Mk-677....and Dermatrest?

[Bolindero]

Hey guys I've ran couple cycles of sarms/andros and one cycle of epistane. Previous cycle used 4-andro but didnt really notice it doing much since I ran epi about 4-5 weeks.

Looking to run epistane again and hopefully make it a better cycle this time with something like dermatrest. Seems like the perfect match with something like epistane also have been taking mk-677 will prob stay around 15-25mg daily. Noticing immediate effect of mk-677 improving my recovery and water retention should help joint pain from epistane I experienced.

I'm just a little worried with the sides of trest and talk of permenant shut down etc. I'm aware many users have run trest and recovered fine I'm just looking to make sure everything is covered and I'm not making any mistakes.

Support will be ar1macare pro or some type of well dosed cycle support. I take daily already and will increase doses of NAC, fish oil, coq10, garlic extract, vitamin b6, and vitamin d. Anything I'm missing for support or AI that would be recommended for this?

Pct would be Clomid/Rebirth/support supps

Dosing protocol would be 30mg first week and 45mg of epistane for the rest of the cycle, what would be optimal to run trest at with epistane? Primary goals are to gain strength and size will be bulking with a high surplus thanks to mk-677.

Sorry for all of that if anyone has some suggestions to make this as best as possible I'd appreciate it

Thanks

 

[ericos_bob]

19-nor compounds are especially harsh on the hpta but any compound can mess up your endocrine system be it epistane sarms or andros so you've already taken risks there. You roll the dice and hope you'll come out okay. Proper PCT ensures the best chance of recovery, it doesn't ensure full recovery. Even those people who come out "fine" may have simply come out good enough not to suffer from low test. It's possible your T levels are already lower than natural you just won't know it until you get to a critical point (hypogonadism) and possibly with age related testosterone decline (despite not affecting every man the same) will go down the TRT route sooner than otherwise. It's just something worthwhile considering. How important is it for you to maintain natural test production to a ripe old age and how important are your goals in terms of "getting jacked" Low testosterone affects every area of your life while being enhanced and jacked affects your appearance. Which is most important?