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sd no sides!

Masciaman said:
ive never had anything bunk before but im starting to wonder if my sd is :( im 11 days in. ran 20 mg for like the irst 9 days and the last 2 at 30 mg, i mean my vascularity looks good, but it kinda always does even when im not on cycle. my weight is literally the same as day 1 of the cycle too
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I wouldn't use SD either way. A guy named blue devil ran it and didn't have good luck with it also
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
your pretty good size also remember, you probably gotta eat more than even what I just recommended....why not write down your cals/macros for a few days here....take the time to write down EVERYTHING you eat....go look it up if there is no label, weigh it if possible to get accurate numbers....see if your getting 4-5K in cals. I bet your lacking in cals, but hey ....the PH could be bunk, who knows? I write down every freaking thing I eat and all the macros, 365 :D
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I dont right down or count spit...
 
There are 2 kinds on nutrition arsenal M1-d by rock hard supplements and m14add by competetive edge labs. I havent used any but CEL have always been legit with everyone i know and me personally ive taken their alpha one. I would got with THE CEL one it is 25 too i believe
Masciaman said:
husker, is the m14add legit? because i couldnt find any when i looked, and warbird, part of why i think my m-stane is fake is because when you look up m-stane it has a white cap, mine had black caps, idk why, i cant find a worthy log of m-stane, and im 2 weeks in and feel nothing lol. kinda depressing but thats what i get for trying to go the cheap route..not doing that again il tell ya that much
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Husker89 said:
There are 2 kinds on nutrition arsenal M1-d by rock hard supplements and m14add by competetive edge labs. I havent used any but CEL have always been legit with everyone i know and me personally ive taken their alpha one. I would got with THE CEL one it is 25 too i believe
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30mg per cap...what is the suggested dosage on this? per day? for an "average" dose, nothing crazy....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
30mg per cap...what is the suggested dosage on this? per day? for an "average" dose, nothing crazy....
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Just trade the damn bulk or buy me some
Lean
 
AaronJP1 said:
Just trade the damn bulk or buy me some
Lean
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I'm not trading no bulks got-damnit......I just bought one AMv3 off island....so if you want to sell, do it while people (me) are buying :D I need two more, three total. Don't care if its v2 or v3 at this point ....v2 had 150/150 of 1dhea and 4dhea and v3 has 250 of 4dhea...so the v3 is actually better, but it has the AHv3 component in it and I wanted to keep it pure test not DHT. anyways, I'm picking up v2 or v3, don't need it till 6 months from now so I'm in no rush. I'll just pick them up as I go.
 
I don't know why you guys like to trade when you got a MF'er like me with cash....cash is king, you can buy WHATEVER you want with it remember? LOL, trades are just that....take what you have offered to you with no room to change your mind or whatever.
 
^^ alight. V2 is golden. It's hard to find ;)
I do need some andro lean though so we will see

V3 is bunk look what happened to R1 balla haha
 
AaronJP1 said:
^^ alight. V2 is golden. It's hard to find ;)
I do need some andro lean though so we will see

V3 is bunk look what happened to R1 balla haha
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that is physically impossible.....250mg of 4dhea vrs 300mg of 1 and 4dhea mix, then they are BOTH bunk lol. also the v3 has like 1 cap worth of AHv3 in addition to the 1 and 4 dhea. no way its worse. R1 must not have been "doin' it right" LOL :D
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
that is physically impossible.....250mg of 4dhea vrs 300mg of 1 and 4dhea mix, then they are BOTH bunk lol. also the v3 has like 1 cap worth of AHv3 in addition to the 1 and 4 dhea. no way its worse. R1 must not have been "doin' it right" LOL :D
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:rofl:

or a non responder haha
 
Thread + Warbird + Aaron = Hilarity :D

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
Thread + Warbird + Aaron = Hilarity :D

ManBeast
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When me & that ma'phucka get together we wreck shít
 
ManBeast said:
Thread + Warbird + Aaron = Hilarity :D

ManBeast
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whats gonna be the real funny part is when he is left "holding the bag" with his v2 AMass....he'll hold onto it thinking its fuqin gold, won't sell it ...then when he realizes his lethargic ass doesn't want to use it, and comes to me looking to sell, and I already got my bottles....he'll end up selling them for 50 bucks a piece in the swap meet forum....or trading it for 1 lousy bottle recompadrol for each AMv2 :D LMFAO
 
AaronJP1 said:
:rofl:

or a non responder haha
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could be, but i think 9.9 times out of ten its not working out properly, not eating properly etc....I know he is busy with work and school and social life etc....so I bet he has holes in his nutrition and training. plus all that stress and running around isn't good for anabolism that is for sure. I'm shocked at how many people either get sick, or have poor nutrition or training....you have to be on the ball with this stuff. the PH is only an assist to the other 80% of what you need to do....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
whats gonna be the real funny part is when he is left "holding the bag" with his v2 AMass....he'll hold onto it thinking its fuqin gold, won't sell it ...then when he realizes his lethargic ass doesn't want to use it, and comes to me looking to sell, and I already got my bottles....he'll end up selling them for 50 bucks a piece in the swap meet forum....or trading it for 1 lousy bottle recompadrol for each AMv2 :D LMFAO
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Wrong! :lol:

I'll take that **** and put on more pounds than I did the last time and 2 months after that be on androlean.

The way this shít produces gains and only make u tired damn near makes it better than 14k gold.

:run:
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
could be, but i think 9.9 times out of ten its not working out properly, not eating properly etc....I know he is busy with work and school and social life etc....so I bet he has holes in his nutrition and training. plus all that stress and running around isn't good for anabolism that is for sure. I'm shocked at how many people either get sick, or have poor nutrition or training....you have to be on the ball with this stuff. the PH is only an assist to the other 80% of what you need to do....
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Yeah he's throwing up now. He's an advanced lifter so maybe he won't see gains.... As easy
 
AaronJP1 said:
Wrong! :lol:

I'll take that **** and put on more pounds than I did the last time and 2 months after that be on androlean.

The way this shít produces gains and only make u tired damn near makes it better than 14k gold.

:run:
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what you SHOULD do is sell that shyt, take the money and buy androlean for your fat azzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and do like I am doing with the Epi and then Pstanz.....CUTTING! I'm doing two 6 weekers back to back to get down to much lower BF.....Then I'll be careful when "bulking" and do it cleaner/leaner in the future.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
what you SHOULD do is sell that shyt, take the money and buy androlean for your fat azzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and do like I am doing with the Epi and then Pstanz.....CUTTING! I'm doing two 6 weekers back to back to get down to much lower BF.....Then I'll be careful when "bulking" and do it cleaner/leaner in the future.
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What r u going be on for 12 weeks?
 
Man I hope yall are wrong about the m-stane I got for bottles of this sh*t lol and I was bout to start next month dammit now I'm upset
 
AaronJP1 said:
What r u going be on for 12 weeks?
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alreay done:
AHv3 4 a day for 7 weeks

Epi 30/40/40/50/50/60 with dermacrine 5 pumps a day (2 weeks in right now)

PStanz 300mg per day 6 weeks

PCT 4 weeks plus maybe couple more weeks off (25mg clomid, anabeta, division 1, DAA, Erase Pro..milder PCT)

Deca 300mg per week 12 weeks
AMv3(2) 3-4 caps per day 12 weeks
Dermacrine ED 12 weeks
(maybe) 4 week kickstart with an oral

PCT 4 weeks (50mg clomid, anabeta, daa, division 1, TRS2, Erase pro etc...more heavy duty)

after that? not sure.......have another deca/AMv3 run exactly the same ready to go though...have 2 of those cycles worth.

oh yeah got a 8 week ABv3 cycle also, and another Epi cycle like the one above, plus some other random stuff.
 
rsnake21 said:
Man I hope yall are wrong about the m-stane I got for bottles of this sh*t lol and I was bout to start next month dammit now I'm upset
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why don't you try it out and see what happens? let us know. hopefully you are diligent with your nutrition and training? If so, and all those variables are spot on....you will "know" if its working I'm sure.
 
Oh I'm def gonna try it out lol but I've been so jacked up for this for months now and it just broke my lil heart to hear it might be bunk
 
rsnake21 said:
Oh I'm def gonna try it out lol but I've been so jacked up for this for months now and it just broke my lil heart to hear it might be bunk
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It's probably bunk.
haha joking u bought so run it or sell it off...
 
rsnake21 said:
Oh I'm def gonna try it out lol but I've been so jacked up for this for months now and it just broke my lil heart to hear it might be bunk
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yeah its very disconcerting to hear this type of stuff :D esp for me, I JUST bought mine the other day.....but who knows, might be fine. I say start it tomorrow. might as well, get it over with.
 
Thanks Jason and Im up 13 now lol I always way myself empty and after workout just shorts
 
It's crazy tho cuz everybody I talked to before I bought said m stane is the sh*t it's g2g so I stocked up on it lol
 
ya rsnake i bought 5 bottles lol, i think the bottles with the white caps were legit idk about these black capped ones..
 
sounds bunk to me, sorry bro, i know 2 guys who ran m-stane and literally ate like garbage (not like fast food but not even close to enough calories , protein etc ) and gained 7 - 10 pounds
 
yeegits, im talking about the tops to the bottles of m-stane lol, the actual capsules are clear with white powder, that wasnt the part that concerned me lol
 
idk if mine are though, like i said 2 weeks in with nothing.. i had sides when i ran epi so how do i have nothing with sd? i know its a different compound but come on now lol, ordered some helladrol today.. i know thats legit and i know itll be worth the run :P gonna run short pct first though just to be safe and keep my nads in check even though my libido is still the way it was 2 weeks ago when i started haha
 
Ok on day 12... Went from 222 to 233. Upped cals, carb and protein. Havent gained anymore from day ten
 
It is but the past 3 days I havnt gained ****
 
I havnt even gone to 30. I started at 20. Im thinkin 20/20/30... Seein how that treats me. If it does good maybe 40
 
im jealous airborne...
 
oh, i thought you had already bumped it to 30, well shiit, i dont know why you are complaining. now you have enough to go a 5th week at 40mg.
 
Husker89 said:
you should run a 4 weeks spawn cycle (estra 4, 9 and epistane) or just estra 4, 9 it is great bulking and strength kinda like dbol even though it is 19nor-testosterone product not a derivative of testosterone extremely close to testoserones biological structure like dbol is, u ever tried estra 4 9?
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19 nor kills my libido



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it is now illegal, and huskers statement is incorrect concerning dienedione (pro dienolone).

it's a derivative of nor testosterone.

if you can get some, it's good stuff, high risk of gyno, and drop in libido, but it works good.

fck spawn, run dzine/pro dienolone instead if you can.
 
im thinking about running transform sd 30mg ed for 4 weeks, what am i gonna do with 30 pills if i do 20 mg ed???
 
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