SD cycle starts monday
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Mach .78
Registered User
Another question. Does this Pct look right for 3 maybe 4 wks? Nolva 40/20/20 RXT25/25/50. I've got all my other stuff Fenugreek etc.. in order but I forget whether you are supposed to go low with RXT in the 1st week ramping up or the other way around. I increase it right? Those are mega gains my friend. What are you going to do next, put on 30 and keep 28? This was all SD alone? Post your Pct.
QUICKRYDE
Member
39th Day/ 11 days of PCT/ 222 pounds
Well, everything is still going well for me. I'm not having any reaction to the PCT supplements. I did gain two pounds and that is a mystery to me because I'm not eating the high calorie carbs any longer. I think the CEE is kicking in and giving me a little more weight. My new weight is 222 pounds. I went up 20 pounds more on my bench and dumbbell inclines this week and next week might bring me some surprises...if it's true about the CEE.
I did set my physical and blood work appointment for August and we will see what kind of damage the SD cause. I think I'm going be ok because my body adapt so well to change and I'm still not having no joint problems.
Well, everything is still going well for me. I'm not having any reaction to the PCT supplements. I did gain two pounds and that is a mystery to me because I'm not eating the high calorie carbs any longer. I think the CEE is kicking in and giving me a little more weight. My new weight is 222 pounds. I went up 20 pounds more on my bench and dumbbell inclines this week and next week might bring me some surprises...if it's true about the CEE.
I did set my physical and blood work appointment for August and we will see what kind of damage the SD cause. I think I'm going be ok because my body adapt so well to change and I'm still not having no joint problems.
engineerdude
New member
Hey revo and quick, have you been taking any liver protection supps while on your cycle. I've read your threads and I don't think I saw any mention of it. I'm thinking of doing an SD cycle but my reluctance is due to potential liver damage. I am a big weekend warrior at the bar scene and sometimes I drink like a fish. I would stop the drinking while on it. What do you guys think? One more question, can someone explain lipids?
jonny21
Registered User
I would highly recommend avoiding alcohol while taking SD. Besides the possible negative side effects you should keep your nutrition as clean as possible. From what I've read in the forum weight gain on SD is not just in the form of LBM, fat can happen.engineerdude said:
There is quite a lot of info in regards to lipids. Start researching, if you run into any walls start a new thread asking for help.
Dovad1234
New member
Lupids
I think they are referring to cholesterol. I have seen bloodwork that shows that HDL and LDL are out of whack when taking SD. I have a question for you all. Liver damage can occur from SD and alcohol. Which is worse on your liver. 3 weeks on SD 20 mg a day + 6 days PCT, or drinking a 12 pack of Bud light a day for 3 weeks? I did not get an answer to the other side effects of SD other than lipids, back pumps, shrinkage and liver damage.
I think they are referring to cholesterol. I have seen bloodwork that shows that HDL and LDL are out of whack when taking SD. I have a question for you all. Liver damage can occur from SD and alcohol. Which is worse on your liver. 3 weeks on SD 20 mg a day + 6 days PCT, or drinking a 12 pack of Bud light a day for 3 weeks? I did not get an answer to the other side effects of SD other than lipids, back pumps, shrinkage and liver damage.
Mach .78
Registered User
If I may make a suggestion. If anyone is in the middle of an SD cycle or getting ready to start, I have found that I can't eat as much on SD, plus it's summertime in S.Florida. Take 100 mg of R-ala about 30 min. before you want to consume food. I have found my eating has increased greatly from this little tweak. I didn't come up with it, they are doing this in the Anarchy Stack for fatloss but hell it's doing wonders for me right now. It comes out to 600 mg a day I gotta go eat, later. Damn I'm hungry. :blink:
engineerdude
New member
I'm definitely going to cut the drinking for the cycle and pct. I'm also going to start milk thistle one moth prior to starting the SD cycle and stay at 10-20 mg daily doses. Your thread is very informative and I am looking forward to starting now that I have done my research.
QUICKRYDE
Member
50th Day/ 22 days of PCT/ 225 pounds
Wassup guys...I decided to check in and give some updates.
Well, everything is still going well for me. I'm not having any reaction to the PCT supplements. I did gain some more weight and my new weight is 225 pounds lock and steady and my strength is slowly going up by 5 to 10 pounds increase.
I'm glad I went with the Novedex XT because it's working for me. I have been reading some of the other feedback from the other products and it seem to me that people is keeping their gains at the post SD level or dropping in weight and strength from the other products. I would had taken the RXT for my PCT but they had a problem with their product...so, they lost my business.
I'm only taking Novedex XT, HMB, Lean Xtreme, DHEA, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE and I'm still taking all the side supplements like CoQ10, Red Yeast Rice, Odorless Garlic, Pro liver, Hawthron, and Policosanol.
I do highly recommend that you preload a cycle before you start the SD cycle. I started taking Odorless garlic, Red yeast rice, Pro liver, CoQ10, and Hawthron Berry, about 2 to 3 weeks before the SD cycle. I have been taking fish oil and flax oil for a couple of years now and it does make a big difference in your growth.
I also do cardio...I walk about two miles to my job both ways in the spring summer and fall months. I even walked during the SD cycle. I used to catch a taxi or a bus to my job, once I got off the train but I decided to change it to a workout.
I eat 90% healthy and I do treat myself to some fun foods. I ate high and low fat foods on the SD cycle. My main food was Turkey Pasta and I added cut up veggie. The Turkey Pasta was over 60 grams in good carbs, over 40 grams in protein and I tried to keep the fat very low and healthy. I ate four meals and two protein shakes a day. I do about 1 to 2 gallons of water a day. I eat two serving oatmeal spread through out the day and 5 egg whites a day or five boil eggs.
I hope this info will be helpful to the new members.
I also included a before and after picture.
Wassup guys...I decided to check in and give some updates.
Well, everything is still going well for me. I'm not having any reaction to the PCT supplements. I did gain some more weight and my new weight is 225 pounds lock and steady and my strength is slowly going up by 5 to 10 pounds increase.
I'm glad I went with the Novedex XT because it's working for me. I have been reading some of the other feedback from the other products and it seem to me that people is keeping their gains at the post SD level or dropping in weight and strength from the other products. I would had taken the RXT for my PCT but they had a problem with their product...so, they lost my business.
I'm only taking Novedex XT, HMB, Lean Xtreme, DHEA, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE and I'm still taking all the side supplements like CoQ10, Red Yeast Rice, Odorless Garlic, Pro liver, Hawthron, and Policosanol.
I do highly recommend that you preload a cycle before you start the SD cycle. I started taking Odorless garlic, Red yeast rice, Pro liver, CoQ10, and Hawthron Berry, about 2 to 3 weeks before the SD cycle. I have been taking fish oil and flax oil for a couple of years now and it does make a big difference in your growth.
I also do cardio...I walk about two miles to my job both ways in the spring summer and fall months. I even walked during the SD cycle. I used to catch a taxi or a bus to my job, once I got off the train but I decided to change it to a workout.
I eat 90% healthy and I do treat myself to some fun foods. I ate high and low fat foods on the SD cycle. My main food was Turkey Pasta and I added cut up veggie. The Turkey Pasta was over 60 grams in good carbs, over 40 grams in protein and I tried to keep the fat very low and healthy. I ate four meals and two protein shakes a day. I do about 1 to 2 gallons of water a day. I eat two serving oatmeal spread through out the day and 5 egg whites a day or five boil eggs.
I hope this info will be helpful to the new members.
I also included a before and after picture.
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Dovad1234
New member
I was told that taking Pro Liver during the SD cycle will not allow SD to work. That is will in fact cancel out SD. Is this true? I was told to take Pro Liver during PCT. Did you do blood work? What are ths results? What do you take on SD cycle? Thanks for all of your help!!QUICKRYDE said:
John Smeton
Legend
Looks to me the reason for your gains are because of diet. That just goes to say Diet makes or breaks your physique. Good job
QUICKRYDE said:
QUICKRYDE
Member
I gained 20 pounds on the SD/PCT cycle. I have taken Pro Liver for over six weeks now and it didn't stop my progress. The Pro liver will help protect your liver. You only have one liver and that's something you don't want to play around with. I will be doing blood work and a physical before the month end. I think I listed all the side supplements earlier in this thread.
Dovad1234 said:
Mach .78
Registered User
Dovad1234 said:
Don't believe it. SD works just fine when taking Proliver. I'm holding 8-10 lbs. 3rd day of pct. And proliver during pct. Take 5 grams of taurine , some Red yeast rice, and Coq10 while on.
Hey QuickRyde, I saw you are eating Turkey Pasta. Where did you get that? Do they make Chicken Pasta?
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QUICKRYDE
Member
66 days/38 days of PCT/226 pounds
Well, I'm finish with the PCT cycle.
I finished the last three pills of Novedex XT last night. I completed five weeks and 3 days of PCT. Why so long? Because I did a four week cycle of SD and I felt the extra week and days will help fix any possible damages to my body and I hate having partial bottles sitting around for months, until I decide to do another cycle. The unused pills normally change colors, smell different and start to stick together. {I know I'm not the only one that experience this}
I only took Novedex XT, HMB, Lean Xtreme, DHEA, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE and I was still taking all the side supplements like CoQ10, Red Yeast Rice, Odorless Garlic, Pro liver, Hawthorn, and Policosanol.
I weigh in this morning and the last couple of mornings buttnaked and waste removed, so I can get a stabilize weight. I have been keeping a steady weight of 226 pounds this week but last week I was dipping back and forth from 223 to 226 pounds. I can't explain the change in weight. I'm not into all that body measurement because I go by the mirror to judge my size but I did measure my waist and it's a cool 33w My built is still pumped and cut. I thought the CEE would bloat my size into a round porky but it's adding and holding the water in my muscle.
My strength is still the same and I stop increasing in strength less than two weeks ago but I didn't loss any strength as of this date.
I didn't experience any side-effects during PCT and I have to give Novedex XT a thumb up for it quality product. I was kind of worry because it was a new product but I'm glad I took the chance. I didn’t take Nolva because I wasn’t comfortable with that product and that choice work out for me. I didn’t rec’v no GENO or tingling of the breast. I don’t know what you GENO guys were doing wrong or it might be just different body chemistry that produce that side-effect but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me.
I been reading about a few SD users that's loosing their size and strength once they came off of their PCT or even during the PCT process...I will try to check in once a week to give feedback regarding my status, until I post my blood work in September. I will also be completing a full body physical exam on the same day of the bloodwork.
I can rate Superdrol on a scale of 1-10 as an eight, until I rec’v my blood work in September, that’s where that rating stand.
I would recommend the Superdrol to other people but I highly recommend the users to preload a cycle before you start the SD cycle. I started taking Odorless garlic, Red yeast rice, Pro liver, CoQ10, and Hawthorn Berry, about 2 weeks before the SD cycle. I have been taking fish oil and flax oil for a couple of years now and it does make a big difference in your growth and future joint problems. I also recommend the users to try a very low dosage of SD for a couple of days to test their tolerance of the Superdrol supplement because their have been some nasty feedback from other users first experience of Superdrol.
I will not be doing another cycle till December or February of next year. I don’t believe in cycle back to back or cycle with short rest period. I do believe the body need rest from it transformation because it does damage to the body and none of us know the long tern damages these supplements may cause on our bodies. These supplements might have speed up an unknown cancer, weaken our bone structure, weaken our heart or cut our lifespan down some years. We just don’t know the long term effects. So, that why I don’t do back to back cycles. If the cycles are spread apart, it can give your body a chance to heal and if you notice any type of problem you can seek medical help in time but with the proper dosages, PCT and a couple of months rest…it can shrink that danger zones down to size. Well, that’s my 2 cents.
I do recommend you read the new sticky “SAFE CYCLING: YOUR HEALTH IS IN YOUR HANDS�. I give it a thumb up.
Well, I'm finish with the PCT cycle.
I finished the last three pills of Novedex XT last night. I completed five weeks and 3 days of PCT. Why so long? Because I did a four week cycle of SD and I felt the extra week and days will help fix any possible damages to my body and I hate having partial bottles sitting around for months, until I decide to do another cycle. The unused pills normally change colors, smell different and start to stick together. {I know I'm not the only one that experience this}I only took Novedex XT, HMB, Lean Xtreme, DHEA, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE and I was still taking all the side supplements like CoQ10, Red Yeast Rice, Odorless Garlic, Pro liver, Hawthorn, and Policosanol.
I weigh in this morning and the last couple of mornings buttnaked and waste removed, so I can get a stabilize weight. I have been keeping a steady weight of 226 pounds this week but last week I was dipping back and forth from 223 to 226 pounds. I can't explain the change in weight. I'm not into all that body measurement because I go by the mirror to judge my size but I did measure my waist and it's a cool 33w
My built is still pumped and cut. I thought the CEE would bloat my size into a round porky but it's adding and holding the water in my muscle.My strength is still the same and I stop increasing in strength less than two weeks ago but I didn't loss any strength as of this date.
I didn't experience any side-effects during PCT and I have to give Novedex XT a thumb up for it quality product. I was kind of worry because it was a new product but I'm glad I took the chance. I didn’t take Nolva because I wasn’t comfortable with that product and that choice work out for me. I didn’t rec’v no GENO or tingling of the breast. I don’t know what you GENO guys were doing wrong or it might be just different body chemistry that produce that side-effect but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me.
I been reading about a few SD users that's loosing their size and strength once they came off of their PCT or even during the PCT process...I will try to check in once a week to give feedback regarding my status, until I post my blood work in September. I will also be completing a full body physical exam on the same day of the bloodwork.
I can rate Superdrol on a scale of 1-10 as an eight, until I rec’v my blood work in September, that’s where that rating stand.
I would recommend the Superdrol to other people but I highly recommend the users to preload a cycle before you start the SD cycle. I started taking Odorless garlic, Red yeast rice, Pro liver, CoQ10, and Hawthorn Berry, about 2 weeks before the SD cycle. I have been taking fish oil and flax oil for a couple of years now and it does make a big difference in your growth and future joint problems. I also recommend the users to try a very low dosage of SD for a couple of days to test their tolerance of the Superdrol supplement because their have been some nasty feedback from other users first experience of Superdrol.
I will not be doing another cycle till December or February of next year. I don’t believe in cycle back to back or cycle with short rest period. I do believe the body need rest from it transformation because it does damage to the body and none of us know the long tern damages these supplements may cause on our bodies. These supplements might have speed up an unknown cancer, weaken our bone structure, weaken our heart or cut our lifespan down some years. We just don’t know the long term effects. So, that why I don’t do back to back cycles. If the cycles are spread apart, it can give your body a chance to heal and if you notice any type of problem you can seek medical help in time but with the proper dosages, PCT and a couple of months rest…it can shrink that danger zones down to size. Well, that’s my 2 cents.
I do recommend you read the new sticky “SAFE CYCLING: YOUR HEALTH IS IN YOUR HANDS�. I give it a thumb up.
QUICKRYDE
Member
This is an add on>>>>>>>>>>>
I will start a natural supplement cycle today. I will stay on this cycle until I start my 1ad/4ad cycle in December or February of 2006. I purchased six bottles of 1ad and five bottles of 4ad before the BAN and I need to do a cycle before the expiration date on the bottles. I was hoping to run across a thread that I can cycle the 1ad/4ad with a bulk cycle...hopefully; I will run across a thread by December or February of 2006.
The natural supplement cycle will consist of HMB, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE, Whey protein, Mass Maker and ZMA.
I also will be finishing the bottles I had left over from SD PCT cycle. I will finish taking the oderless garlic, Pro Liver, Hawthorn, and Policosanol.
I will start a natural supplement cycle today. I will stay on this cycle until I start my 1ad/4ad cycle in December or February of 2006. I purchased six bottles of 1ad and five bottles of 4ad before the BAN and I need to do a cycle before the expiration date on the bottles. I was hoping to run across a thread that I can cycle the 1ad/4ad with a bulk cycle...hopefully; I will run across a thread by December or February of 2006.
The natural supplement cycle will consist of HMB, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE, Whey protein, Mass Maker and ZMA.
I also will be finishing the bottles I had left over from SD PCT cycle. I will finish taking the oderless garlic, Pro Liver, Hawthorn, and Policosanol.
QUICKRYDE
Member
End of PCT 226 pounds/15 days after PCT/ now 223 pounds
Well guys it has been 15 days since I stop the PCT and I drop three pounds and I still have my strength. My strength did not drop and it didn't go up.
The natural supplement I'm taking consist of HMB, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE, Whey protein, Mass Maker and ZMA.
I was doing some research on some supplements and I ran across "Pure Vitargo". I read the replies and reviews across the web on google search and I'm sold on this product. So, I placed an order two days ago and I will be trying this supplement next week. I will let you guys know how it works for me. If any of you guys tried this supplement "Pure Vitargo"...give me some feedback.
Well guys it has been 15 days since I stop the PCT and I drop three pounds and I still have my strength. My strength did not drop and it didn't go up.
The natural supplement I'm taking consist of HMB, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE, Whey protein, Mass Maker and ZMA.
I was doing some research on some supplements and I ran across "Pure Vitargo". I read the replies and reviews across the web on google search and I'm sold on this product. So, I placed an order two days ago and I will be trying this supplement next week. I will let you guys know how it works for me. If any of you guys tried this supplement "Pure Vitargo"...give me some feedback.
stu_r
Board Supporter
Hey Quickryde,QUICKRYDE said:End of PCT 226 pounds/15 days after PCT/ now 223 pounds
Well guys it has been 15 days since I stop the PCT and I drop three pounds and I still have my strength. My strength did not drop and it didn't go up.
The natural supplement I'm taking consist of HMB, Glutamine, BCAA, Flax oil, Fish oil, CEE, Whey protein, Mass Maker and ZMA.
I was doing some research on some supplements and I ran across "Pure Vitargo". I read the replies and reviews across the web on google search and I'm sold on this product. So, I placed an order two days ago and I will be trying this supplement next week. I will let you guys know how it works for me. If any of you guys tried this supplement "Pure Vitargo"...give me some feedback.
I've followed this thread with great interest and am excited about starting my first SD cycle tomorrow. Been taking similar supps to you for 3 weeks so just wanted to say thanks for sharing your experience with us. I hope I do as well as you did.
Cheers:head:
alvin
New member
Quick and all that care about SD. I have been off for about 2 months. I did a 4 week PCT of Novadex XT. My weight has dropped 25 lbs (285-260), but my strength actually went up a bit. Not huge gains like I had when on SD, but a consistent rep or two on my power sets. I have not lifted more than once a week since I've been off. Rugby and BJJ take most of my time. I would say this is one hell of a quality product as long as you don't compete in an atheletic sport while taking it. Back and calf pumps prevent most sports. I must say, my weight loss is mostly due to practices, a 7000 to 3000 a day calorie intake, and water loss. I'd say I kept all of y muscle mass gain as of now. JOhn
doodle
Member
superdrol or an hgh?
this looks like the best place to ask this question. I plan on taking a cycle of superdol to mainly add some mucle to my chest. no matter what i do i cannot seem to get my chest to grow, so now i want to try something more hardcore. so basically my question is will superdrol give me the results im looking for?
this looks like the best place to ask this question. I plan on taking a cycle of superdol to mainly add some mucle to my chest. no matter what i do i cannot seem to get my chest to grow, so now i want to try something more hardcore. so basically my question is will superdrol give me the results im looking for?
BOHICA
Registered User
Diet and correct training might help instead of drugs. If you started a thread and told us about your training, diet and routine then maybe we coupld offer some advice. But I doubt this happens and like most people you will just turn to something to help you instead of identifying the real problem. To each thier own.doodle said:
TheStud121
New member
QuickRyde~ Have you got your blood work yet? I was just curious how it came out...?
QUICKRYDE
Member
It seems from my experience and the other SD users that the bulk of the weight is in the upper part of the body. The supplement will only help you to reach your goal but you must have a solid workout plan to reach your goal. You must eat to grow and rec'v plenty of rest.
You might want to try this chest routine>>>>5 sets of Incline bench press, three sets of incline dumbbell press, four sets of barbell bench press, 3 sets and 8-12 reps of dips and if you really want to get a pump and burn after the dips...go to a chest machine and do as many presses as you can in one set to rec'v that burn and pump. Do this routine once a week and remember to add weights to make the weight training harder.
This routine is a chest killer, if you challenge yourself with the weights. I was given this routine a couple of years back from a bodybuilder and I gave it to other people that experience the same success. I must stress the eating again because you must eat to grow.
You might want to try this chest routine>>>>5 sets of Incline bench press, three sets of incline dumbbell press, four sets of barbell bench press, 3 sets and 8-12 reps of dips and if you really want to get a pump and burn after the dips...go to a chest machine and do as many presses as you can in one set to rec'v that burn and pump. Do this routine once a week and remember to add weights to make the weight training harder.
This routine is a chest killer, if you challenge yourself with the weights. I was given this routine a couple of years back from a bodybuilder and I gave it to other people that experience the same success. I must stress the eating again because you must eat to grow.
doodle said:
QUICKRYDE
Member
I will be having my physical next week. I wanted to rec'v a complete physical exam. I usually get a complete physical exam once a year and since I was going to get a blood test done because of the Superdrol cycle....I decided to kill two birds with one stone.
I will be having the complete bloodwork done...from A to Z, complete body check and a urine test.
The reason for the delay, my physical is around the time the kids go back to school and my doctor is really busy around that time.
I will be having the complete bloodwork done...from A to Z, complete body check and a urine test.
The reason for the delay, my physical is around the time the kids go back to school and my doctor is really busy around that time.
TheStud121 said:
alvin
New member
Quick, I will do another one, but not anytime soon. I'm in rugby season and can't deal with the calf/back pumps. I'm guessing around december or so for another. Just to help a point. I ate 7000 calories a day while on my 6 week cycle. I also lifted 6 days a week for about 1.5-2 hours a session. I only lift twice a week now for maintence only.
alvin
New member
20 mg the first three weeks, then 30 the last three. I may have done PCT longer. I finished and entire bottle of Novadex. It may have been 5 or 6 weeks. All my numbers were fine. Most actually better after the cycle, but thats from the huge increase in exersize. BF around 20% (at 285, haven't check it lately) BP 120/70, SHR=65. I check both of these every week. Chol about 200, a little high, but down from my 230 ealier in the year. I eat a lot of red meat, so I cut back and added more chicken.
QUICKRYDE
Member
The routine I gave you is a mass building routine. The fly exercise is more of a body sculpturing routine. My logic is to build the mass and then add the body sculpturing routine to shape and cut. When the time come to shape and cut the mass down…You must be ready to control your eating habits and include a higher amount of protein into your diet and cut the carbs down but you have three to four months before you even open that door.
I don’t think you doing the same routine I gave you and not in this order. I don’t think you going at 100% intensity. If you are performing this routine at 100% intensity, it has to be your diet and your rest that is stopping your growth.
If you don’t mine, can you include your height and weight? If you are performing the same workout routine I gave you…please include the weight you are lifting for each exercise. The reason I’m requesting this info is because I gave this same info to a guy at my gym and he was saying this routine don’t work. I workout with him on his chest day and I found out he wasn’t working out at full intensity. The guy weighs 185 pounds and bench pressing 90 pounds for his last set. He was doing dips on the dip machine at 75% minus his weight and he did more talking on the cell phone than he did weight training. When I finish writing down all the things HE DID WRONG and I had him write down all the foods he ate in the last 72 hours…guess what, his food intake was over ¾ fast foods, junk food and beer. When he viewed all his mistakes on paper and change his habits…he started to grow.
I remember when this female ask me to write her up a program to loss weight. She weighed 240 pounds. I asked her to tell me about her physical lifestyle and what she eats. She basically did nothing physical and she told me she didn’t eat much. Hmmm, so I changed the question and ask her to list EVERYTHING she ate within a 72 hour period. Well, that was the million dollar question and she placed a lot of fast foods, junk foods, pops, and no veggie on the paper. I wrote her up a workout plan and guided her to a nutrition expert to help her to change her eating habits. She stayed on the program for up to 5 months and lost 62 pounds. I workout with her three times a week and it was a few times she wanted to give up but she reached her goals and now she thinks she the sexist female in the gym.
I don’t think you doing the same routine I gave you and not in this order. I don’t think you going at 100% intensity. If you are performing this routine at 100% intensity, it has to be your diet and your rest that is stopping your growth.
If you don’t mine, can you include your height and weight? If you are performing the same workout routine I gave you…please include the weight you are lifting for each exercise. The reason I’m requesting this info is because I gave this same info to a guy at my gym and he was saying this routine don’t work. I workout with him on his chest day and I found out he wasn’t working out at full intensity. The guy weighs 185 pounds and bench pressing 90 pounds for his last set. He was doing dips on the dip machine at 75% minus his weight and he did more talking on the cell phone than he did weight training. When I finish writing down all the things HE DID WRONG and I had him write down all the foods he ate in the last 72 hours…guess what, his food intake was over ¾ fast foods, junk food and beer. When he viewed all his mistakes on paper and change his habits…he started to grow.
I remember when this female ask me to write her up a program to loss weight. She weighed 240 pounds. I asked her to tell me about her physical lifestyle and what she eats. She basically did nothing physical and she told me she didn’t eat much. Hmmm, so I changed the question and ask her to list EVERYTHING she ate within a 72 hour period. Well, that was the million dollar question and she placed a lot of fast foods, junk foods, pops, and no veggie on the paper. I wrote her up a workout plan and guided her to a nutrition expert to help her to change her eating habits. She stayed on the program for up to 5 months and lost 62 pounds. I workout with her three times a week and it was a few times she wanted to give up but she reached her goals and now she thinks she the sexist female in the gym.
doodle said:
doodle
Member
my weight right now is around 205 and im 5'10, muscular build. everything is proportionate except for my chest. it actually used to cave in the middle. my shoulders and arms make my chest look rediculous, but i have always been very strong on the bench press. some people said i was probably using my shoulders and back too much. but i know thats not the case. i make sure that i isolate my chest when i do any chest exercise. for the past couple months i have tried out doing 2 chest days a week rather than one, but have seen little improvement. my chest is also sore the next day, but it never really grows. i have a balanced and clean diet. my current supplements include creatine mono(swithcing to cee),whey,fish oil,bcaa,glutamine,hmb,zma,multivitamin. my workout is flat barbell 3x6 with 295lbs,flat dumbell 3x7 110lbs,incline dumbell 3x8 95lbs, close grip 3x6 185lbs, flat dumbell flys 3x8 55, cable cross. and on the second chest day, i do decline and dips where i would have done incline. i have been weightlifting for almost 8 years now. my max on bench press is 365lbs.
QUICKRYDE
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Hmmm, how is the genetic line in your family tree? Do the males in your family have the same body type?
You might want to consider going wide in your chest and back exercises. The wide grip bench press and incline press can be a killer routine. The back exercises like the pull-ups and wide barbell rows can help widen the upper body.
So, think wide and give that a try. I tried it before and it’s a killer.
Now, if your status is true that you mention in your post...yes, go ahead and try the Superol cycle. I would recommend you get your new workout routine together, before you start the cycle and go at it with 100% intensity. I also want to mention in your case...the Superdrol might not add the muscle size to your chest but to your arms and shoulder.
You might want to consider going wide in your chest and back exercises. The wide grip bench press and incline press can be a killer routine. The back exercises like the pull-ups and wide barbell rows can help widen the upper body.
So, think wide and give that a try. I tried it before and it’s a killer.
Now, if your status is true that you mention in your post...yes, go ahead and try the Superol cycle. I would recommend you get your new workout routine together, before you start the cycle and go at it with 100% intensity. I also want to mention in your case...the Superdrol might not add the muscle size to your chest but to your arms and shoulder.
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