SARMS vs Steroids

Mr.Perfection

Mr.Perfection

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Yo, guys.

Just wondering what would be better for athletes that do a lot of running and jumping. I am a sprinter (60/100/200), though so leaning towards that direction with your answers would be appreciated. But in general I'm talking about rugby, soccer, football, athletics etc.

Whichever you recommend, please also recommend compounds and dosages and cycle planning etc. If you would be so kind.

Thabks in advance, guys.
 
You gotta do some research on your own. We ain't here to do it for you. Come back with a plan and we can give you advise on it.
 
Happy to give you a head start on some research.

SARMS: A USERS GUIDE
A good starter to understanding SARMS, MK and GW

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An interesting thread about 20 pages that might answer some questions you might have.
 
Well sarms aint gonna give you more muscles and recovery. I guess theres a limit to how much muscles you want for certain things and maybe backpumps can be annoying but that's during a cycle. I would say test is the king here.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
You gotta do some research on your own. We ain't here to do it for you. Come back with a plan and we can give you advise on it.
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The quesion is which would be better for me as this sort of athlete. I need the answer to make a plan for you to be able to advise on. Even if someone just said something in the lines of "SARMS generally are better suited for athletes and AAS for bodybuilders" it would have helped me make my decision
Then I could have gone and done research on which compounds and dosages and cycle lengths and whether to do the cycle pre/during season etc. After all of that I would maybe have a plan which I would post here for more opinions.
 
Chados said:
Well sarms aint gonna give you more muscles and recovery. I guess theres a limit to how much muscles you want for certain things and maybe backpumps can be annoying but that's during a cycle. I would say test is the king here.
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Well, sprinting performance is more neural. And the training and meets are very strenuous. So, I would like to know which compounds woul help increase neural output, maybe also increase relative strength, and then of coarse healing/recovery etc.

Thanks for the help, though. ��
 
Mucci said:
Creatine
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Also thought that. The problem is the water retention. Do you think I should try something like this - use creatine for all of it's training benefits then drop it 3-4 weeks before a meet to keep the bennefits, but lose the excess water? What do you think of that?
 
Off the top of my head and speaking veeery generally, Id say SARMs would be a "better" choice, simply because they come with less baggage (estrogen and dht, basically). That being said, depending on what your current goal is specifically and how far out you are from a meet, I could see arguments made for LGD, test, EQ, etc etc at various phases in your preperation and training.
 
Mr.Perfection said:
Well, sprinting performance is more neural. And the training and meets are very strenuous. So, I would like to know which compounds woul help increase neural output, maybe also increase relative strength, and then of coarse healing/recovery etc.

Thanks for the help, though. ��
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Eq easily the one that gives the most stamina but muscles I guess test would be great. You kinda wanna use eq with test though so you'll get all benefits
 
Mr.Perfection said:
Also thought that. The problem is the water retention. Do you think I should try something like this - use creatine for all of it's training benefits then drop it 3-4 weeks before a meet to keep the bennefits, but lose the excess water? What do you think of that?
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I was joking tbh :p but you'll defo reap Some benefits from it. I wouldn't use SARMS/as for running except if you're at a high level
 
I would use the cycle I already recommended for you on your initial thread.

it's hard for many people to make an argument for SARMs, since they're so little actual clinical data showing that they increase performance like androgens actually do.

estrogen and DHT can impart some positive performance benefits on their own, in addition to testosterone.

also, SARMs are a pretty easy flag for a PED test.....
 
Semen extracted from the rare Arctic Donkey has been rumored to give you unbelievable athletic boost comparable to injecting 10 steroids in one go, don't research this as it is illegal, just go there and do it!
 
I personally think injecting low dosages of test is best.

Ultimately it doesn't matter, what you'll focus on and research is dosages.
This is mostly a bodybuilding, strength lifting forum imo. The dosages for say sprinting and other track n field athletes are going to be different than what billy who wants to be the next mr olympia is going to use.
 
user567 said:
Cardarine would be very beneficial. Go look up the athletes who have been busted with this drug in their system over the years.
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it causes fast twitch fibers to convert to slow twitch fibers (allegedly).

no, it's not good for a sprinter.
 
JahCure said:
That's not possible. A type 1 muscle fiber cannot change to a type 2, or the other way around.
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"Today, it is generally accepted that exercise training can promote changes within the population of fast-twitch fibers (i.e., type IIb to IIa) and to a lesser extent changes from fast- to slow-twitch fibers."

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below is a study examining the effect of PPAR activation (by GW501516, i.e. Cardarine) and muscle fibers

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^same study, but easier on the eyes.

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^article for the layman.
 
CatSnake said:
you didn't read any of those links, did you?
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I stand corrected, after reading the GW study you posted it appears fibers can change from type 1-2 and vice versa.

Thanks for the learning.

And to the OP, don't listen to my previous advice, don't use cardarine if your focusing on sprints.
 
Cool. I'll blame my less than amazing recent run times on this then. Which may even make some kind of sense since it was the muscles holding me back. :)
 
Eight said:
Cool. I'll blame my less than amazing recent run times on this then. Which may even make some kind of sense since it was the muscles holding me back. :)
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You're just too swole brah!
 
Honestly I've heard winstrol is the best for sprinters and fighters.

Not that I'm recommending you to anything illegal. This is all for informational purposes only
 
How about this, seriously.

Syntheselen (Injectable ATP) will offer more than any steroid on race/game day. I'm sure of it.

Combined with Trimetazidine @ 20-60mg day of race/game.

Might as well add creatine to the mix too.

Should knock seconds off your run, depending on how long it is. Or in the case of soccer, rugby, etc it should make recovery between bouts really easy.
 
fueledpassion said:
How about this, seriously.

Syntheselen (Injectable ATP) will offer more than any steroid on race/game day. I'm sure of it.

Combined with Trimetazidine @ 20-60mg day of race/game.

Might as well add creatine to the mix too.

Should knock seconds off your run, depending on how long it is. Or in the case of soccer, rugby, etc it should make recovery between bouts really easy.
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Thanks for the info. But the problem is I can't get a hold of that stuff. What do you think of L-Carnarine injections for my goals?
 
If you get injectable l car you should be able to get injectable atp or amp-5
 
I'm an all around athlete, and have noticed two supplements incressed my endurance. The first was non-hormonal, basic epicat. It was not over the top, but it helped me push my MTB longer and harder. The second was Epiandro, that made a large difference. I was significantly stronger/faster on my bike and xfit style lifting.
 
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