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Sarms to the darkside

Sheriff Morri

Sheriff Morri

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I have been running ostarine and MK 677 for approx 8 weeks and have enjoyed the mild increase in size and all over stamina and recovery increase.

I have now started a cycle of tbol at 80mg and LGD 4033 at 8mg for the next 5.5 weeks.

My pct will be nolva at 40/20/20/20

My workout consists of 12 reps at continous amount of sets until fatigue at around 60% of my max lift. My workouts usually rotate bi's and back, tri's and chest, legs with delta and traps.

Along with this I do a 5k 3 times a week and try get a 10k if I have time (family, work and life in general take up so much time)

At the age of 39 and weighing in at 100kg with approx 18-20%bf I'm quite excited on how this first AAS cycle will take.
 
I wouldn't run tbol and LGD together. How will you be able to know which is a problem should one occur?
 
If you’ve got legit tbol then at 80 (which is high) for 5.5 weeks I don’t see the point of the LGD? The tbol alone will probably give you as much as you can gain anyway......
 
And what’s your goal? If it’s to bulk up then I’d decrease cardio. Don’t worry about running a 10k. That’s too much. If it’s a cut then keep that cardio going.
 
Ok that’s cool then I will stop the LGD as of now unless anyone else reckons it’s worth keeping in!

The aim is to purely put on mass.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Ok that’s cool then I will stop the LGD as of now unless anyone else reckons it’s worth keeping in!

The aim is to purely put on mass.
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That’s smart. The lgd will just contribute to messing up your cholesterol and suppressing your test but won’t do much in terms of contributing gains, especially at only 8mg. The tbol will just overshadow it and it should be enough anyway.

And I’d either stop running completely or just run short distance at a moderate intensity one to two times a week for heart health. You don’t want to burn to many calories running if your goal is to add as much mass as possible.
 
SpicedCider said:
Just curious -- do you know of any studies that shed light on how much cardio someone can do without compromising muscle gains?
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I would guess that it would be down to how many calories the cardio burns ratio to how many calories are consumed and how many are surplus to build muscle.. I eat a **** load, approx 4000 calories a day.
 
SpicedCider said:
Just curious -- do you know of any studies that shed light on how much cardio someone can do without compromising muscle gains?
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Imo calorie intake is far more important than cardio amount when it comes to how much you can gain.

Personally I run a lot on or off cycle as I have to get my dog out and it saves me time. It does wonders for BP and clearly will assist in keeping fat down even in a bulk. But bottom line you gotta eat more than you burn and the more cardio you do the more you gotta eat (which can become a challenge).
 
SpicedCider said:
Just curious -- do you know of any studies that shed light on how much cardio someone can do without compromising muscle gains?
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Comes down to burning so many calories, it's not the actual cardio, it's the sheer amount of food you would have to eat to make up for it.
 
Smont said:
Comes down to burning so many calories, it's not the actual cardio, it's the sheer amount of food you would have to eat to make up for it.
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And also cortisol release. Cardio notoriously triggers cortisol release. Cortisol is catabolic.
 
Buuuuut, on the other hand, we saw our favorite BBs doing daily cardio on even their heaviest bulks. Rich Piana comes to mind. Arnold Schwarzenegger as well.
 
I'm a retard, I was doing the math backwards. 5k is only like 3 miles, that's no biggie, keep running
 
Depends on your genetics too. Three 5k’s a week would ware me down fast. I’d prefer to save that time and energy for heavy weights. But if your body recovers fast enough to still fit in heavy lifting and you have the time then I guess why not run three 5k’s a week.
 
Yeah was wondering why you lot were hounding the cardio bit. The running isn’t too bad, it’s a mix between trail runs, street runs and (if the weather is terrible, which it is a lot in Scotland) treadmill.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Yeah was wondering why you lot were hounding the cardio bit. The running isn’t too bad, it’s a mix between trail runs, street runs and (if the weather is terrible, which it is a lot in Scotland) treadmill.
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Well, I mean, Rich Piana and Arnold Schwarzenegger were both taking lots and lots of drugs... Rich more than Arnold of course. Arnold was using finajet though. You get the results you'll get either way. Just with a lot of cardio, you never know how much it is really affecting them. You could grow twice as fast without so much cardio and never know til you do it.
 
Yeah I totally get it, I will just make sure on the days I’m running I get those extra calories in.

On another note, regarding my cycle I know I will be getting test shutdown. Can anyone give me advise on what I should expect from this side effect?
 
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