Sarm

You could check out ostashred. It's pretty good for cutting and there are some logs on here.
 
john31 said:
What sarms are great for cutting. Anybody tried gw501516?
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Osta is the best sarm for cutting, incredible at retaining lean body mass even in an extreme deficit. I like gw but it's not technically a sarm, it's a PPAR modifier.
 
Osta and GW would be a good cutting stack as long as you have your diet on point.
 
I've got 2 bottles of Endura-Shred staring at me while I'm on a cut, but I'm only 4 weeks out of pct... Part of me wants to say f**k it, but I'm trying to be smart.
 
yates84 said:
Osta is the best sarm for cutting, incredible at retaining lean body mass even in an extreme deficit. I like gw but it's not technically a sarm, it's a PPAR modifier.
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how about s4? wouldnt it be better?
 
Do your due diligence on *possible* Cancer and GW correlation. I'm not saying one thing or another, just do the research and make a decision.
 
I ran osta shred for 6 weeks at 37mg and another time at 25mg for 4 weeks. I noticed a little strength increase but no fat loss or noticeable muscle gain.
 
john31 said:
I ran osta shred for 6 weeks at 37mg and another time at 25mg for 4 weeks. I noticed a little strength increase but no fat loss or noticeable muscle gain.
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Hoe was your diet? Were you cutting?
 
The first time I took it while I was bilking but still did cardio 5 times a week. The second time I was cutting but all the fat I lost was my normal during my cutting.
 
31years old, 6'0 230 %10 bodyfat right now. I used super pct and nolva, I normally use tudca too but no need for osta
 
Yeah, it can cause night vision and blindness issues and the companies can't guarantee that it won't be long term. Even though for most its temporary
 
john31 said:
Yeah, it can cause night vision and blindness issues and the companies can't guarantee that it won't be long term. Even though for most its temporary
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Well, these are experimental drugs, so there really is no guarantee. It's like getting some bunk (insert drug name here) from your drug dealer and telling him you want your money back because it gave you side effects.
 
Life's short. I don't mind being a guinne pig but risking blindness is outta my range for experiments
 
john31 said:
I ran osta shred for 6 weeks at 37mg and another time at 25mg for 4 weeks. I noticed a little strength increase but no fat loss or noticeable muscle gain.
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+1 This ^^^

It gave me crazy headaches and lethargy after a week. I think the Arimistane is Overkill. Or the combo, for me personally I'd keep the other ingredients the same and half the Arimistane to 25 a day. Even that's probably a little high as its only Osta suppression not full AAS suppression.
I've run legit Osta before by itself and had no suppression at all. I guess everyone is different though.
 
Metatron144 said:
+1 This ^^^

It gave me crazy headaches and lethargy after a week. I think the Arimistane is Overkill. Or the combo, for me personally I'd keep the other ingredients the same and half the Arimistane to 25 a day. Even that's probably a little high as its only Osta suppression not full AAS suppression.
I've run legit Osta before by itself and had no suppression at all. I guess everyone is different though.
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How do you know?
 
I would run it again with no armistane, for some reason a lot of ppl think there's some rule to start a cycle with your ai at a certain dose and adjust from there but in reality you should only use your ancillaries when needed.
 
BamBam0319 said:
How do you know?
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Well I don't know 100% but each time results are in alignment with others from the same brands. Which leans towards the legit direction. And as for suppression, that's individual, what may suppress you may not suppress me and vice versa.
Ostashred probably has legit Ostarine in it, All I am saying is that I don't think Ostarine warrants a 50mg dose Ed of AI, especially, like Smont pointed out, when starting a cycle.

But the concept probably looks good on paper.
 
Metatron144 said:
Well I don't know 100% but each time results are in alignment with others from the same brands. Which leans towards the legit direction. And as for suppression, that's individual, what may suppress you may not suppress me and vice versa.
Ostashred probably has legit Ostarine in it, All I am saying is that I don't think Ostarine warrants a 50mg dose Ed of AI, especially, like Smont pointed out, when starting a cycle.

But the concept probably looks good on paper.
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You are correct about Osta not needing an AI. However using AAS or SARMS will suppress your natural testosterone levels no matter who you are. BamBam0319 was asking you "How do you know you were not suppressed?" though. You didn't really answer that question. I'd be interested also in how you know or think you know that you were not suppressed.
 
When I get back home next week I'll see if I can find the bloods.
IIRC with Osta the suppression was very slight at best, not even really worth mentioning. With AAS suppression that's a different story, which I would def mention on a forum 'gave me suppression.' And def AI pct would be recommended but no need for Osta.
 
Everything is personal reaction to what there taking. Believe it or not some ppl can run test for x amount of weeks an recover fine with NO PCT. And others run osta and get the worst shutdown they ever had
 
Yes you are correct, that's why I said in previous post it's individual.

But these are my own experiences, and your never gonna know yourself until you try it yourself and have your own experiences. Like everything else in life we all have different experiences so It's great we all share and spread the info, honestly I love Sarms and the potentials they may produce, innovative, with still a ways to go, but honestly in my opinion if my bloods came back the same as on Osta as it did with AAS, I would not use it again, I'd much prefer the results you get with AAS, no comparison. But as they didn't and I bounce right back, I'd use Osta again.
Ive also taken YK-11 dose up to 48mg Ed and nothing where as others have put on 5-10lbs in 2 weeks at 12mg Ed same brand, so yeah each to their own I guess...

After all, when I comes to Sarms, we are all just Guinea Pigs currently... Lol
 
Smont said:
Everything is personal reaction to what there taking. Believe it or not some ppl can run test for x amount of weeks an recover fine with NO PCT. And others run osta and get the worst shutdown they ever had
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Sure they can recover without a pct. It's possible yes. However putting and exogenous synthetic hormone into your body is going to shut down your natural production. That's just how it works. It doesn't differ between different people because we are all human beings and that is how the human body works. Saying otherwise is preposterous.
 
T-Bone said:
Sure they can recover without a pct. It's possible yes. However putting and exogenous synthetic hormone into your body is going to shut down your natural production. That's just how it works. It doesn't differ between different people because we are all human beings and that is how the human body works. Saying otherwise is preposterous.
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I think he was being figurative, in that some people do harsh compounds and recover easily, while others do Osta and get fully shutdown. The process is similar for everyone, but not everyone reacts the same. Some people are more sensitive to some compounds and some are more sensitive to others. For example in my case, if a medication says "may cause drowsiness" it will knock me out cold for 8 hours. Like Tylenol with codeine. I have passed out mid sentence on that stuff and it gives me hellish dreams. Then there is my buddy, who got that that same medication, same dose after getting his wisdom teeth removed and he was ready to go out and party. On the other hand, that same stuff turns my wife into a zombie. She's standing, walking ... the lights are on, but nobody's home ... creepy as hell.
 
There's a record off all natural competitors at different heights, 6ft tall usually peaks out around 180-185 LEAN body mass
This is the anabolic forum, you act like I'm calling out a person who says their natty. Ain't no way he's 20lb over the genetic limit for lean tissue
 
netflixNchill said:
Sorry but 230lb 10% BF and 6ft is genetically impossible
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My cousin is 6foot1 225 with visible abs and only does chins pushups n plyometrics eats lile a fuxin bird too. I get pissed just thinking bout it but its as much a fact as the sky is blue. There's always excptions to the rules
 
Best results I have gotten with with a brand called Alchemy Labs. They have a product with a fat burner and GW combined with 5alpha hydroxy. It is legit.
 
O keep trying gw and get nothing... From a good place too. I feel focused and sweat but no more endurance ot weightloss i dunno!
 
Contaygious said:
O keep trying gw and get nothing... From a good place too. I feel focused and sweat but no more endurance ot weightloss i dunno!
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So quit wasting time and money on it and use something proven by decades of use, like trenbolone lol
 
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