SARM & ProHormone Stack Advice!

MuscleMetal

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Hi guys!

I am interested in the idea of running some LGD with 1-Andro and Epi-Andro. Ideally, I would like to do LGD with S-4 and 1-Andro. However, the vision side effects of S-4 paired with 1-Andro causing lethargy without a "base" like Epi or 4 Andro leads me to the presumption that LGD, 1-Andro, and Epi-Andro would be a great stack for clean gains. I do have some questions regarding this stack however!

1.) I am 22 years old, 6'3", and 235 lbs and i would say somewhere in the 15%-18% BF level. Do you think I am too young to use the DHEA based pro-hormones? I have been training hard, dieting well, etc etc for about 5 years now.

2.) Assuming that we clear the first question, what is your favorite brand of 1-Andro and Epi-Andro?

3.) Due to the nature of the pros, I would want to run 1-Andro for 4 weeks and Epi-Andro for 4-6 weeks. Would it be better served to run the 1-Andro and Epi-Andro towards the end of the stack or the beginning?

4.) What kind of PCT should be implemented for this stack? An OTC PCT or should a SERM be implemented as well?

Here is my potential layout for the stack. I would love to know what you think!!

On cycle:

LGD-4033 (Weeks 1-8): 6/6/8/8/10/10/10/10
1-Andro (Weeks 4-8): 300/300/400/400
Epi Andro (Weeks 4-8): 300/300/400/400
 
Age wise, anybody over 21 id say is good to do a cycle although studies say 25 is the best age., im 23 and have 7 cycles, recovered everytime however im not going to keep testing my luck so im done with AAs i made my gains now im gonna enjoy my life and not ride a hormonal roller coaster and just run natty T boosters every month or 2 to make sure i keep healthy T levels.Also, i don't recommend 3 compounds for your first cycle. 5 of my 7 cycles are LGD cycles it's the best compound ive personally ever used. LGD + dermacrine at 2 pumps ed for 8 weeks would be a killer stack and the gains should be VERY easy to keep. Assuming good diet training and sleep i say you could keep a solid 10-15 pounds especially since it's your first cycle. LGD alone requires a SERM and would be even more successful if you throw in an OTC product or 2 PCT is more important than the actual cycle always remember that. PCT should be Nolva or Clomid, id recommend a 5 week pct clomid would be 50/50/25/25/12.5 nolva would be 40/20/20/10/10. Throw in something Alphamax xt 00/4/4/4/4, should recover real easily.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Also before you even start your first dose do it right and get pre cycle bloods and post cycle bloods for every cycle.
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This is important if you want to see any issues you may come up with based on the stack. As far as the 1-ad if that's what your looking for I would say look at this Invalid Link Removed. If that's what you looking for it has a higher level of ph than most 1-ad products.
I did run 1-ad when I ran lgd from bsl and did fairly well. As far as pct most will tell you clomid. I used reboot by forerunner for mine and recovered fine. Make sure you have all before your start.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Age wise, anybody over 21 id say is good to do a cycle although studies say 25 is the best age., im 23 and have 7 cycles, recovered everytime however im not going to keep testing my luck so im done with AAs i made my gains now im gonna enjoy my life and not ride a hormonal roller coaster and just run natty T boosters every month or 2 to make sure i keep healthy T levels.Also, i don't recommend 3 compounds for your first cycle. 5 of my 7 cycles are LGD cycles it's the best compound ive personally ever used. LGD + dermacrine at 2 pumps ed for 8 weeks would be a killer stack and the gains should be VERY easy to keep. Assuming good diet training and sleep i say you could keep a solid 10-15 pounds especially since it's your first cycle. LGD alone requires a SERM and would be even more successful if you throw in an OTC product or 2 PCT is more important than the actual cycle always remember that. PCT should be Nolva or Clomid, id recommend a 5 week pct clomid would be 50/50/25/25/12.5 nolva would be 40/20/20/10/10. Throw in something Alphamax xt 00/4/4/4/4, should recover real easily.
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Thanks so much for the detailed reply!! Did you run the LGD as a research liquid or in capsule form? And also this would not "technically" be my first cycle... I just finished up Osta Shred from Hard Rock Supplements but I'm believing the Osta in there was bunk and the results I was seeing was from the Arimistane. Im actually using Alphamax XT now for my PCT. Its working really well. Unfortunately, I think they changed the formula of the product and we will have to look elsewhere after this. I loved the fact that it had the estrogen, cortisol, and testosterone protocol all in one. It's a shame they changed the product,
 
I'll 2nd the recommendation for an LGD + Dermacrine cycle. But at 235lbs. I would go with 4 pumps/day of Dermacrine.
 
Youngbodybuil pretty much has you covered. I would take his advice and run with it.
 
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