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safe to say designer steroids more bang for buck

Well I dont have to go otc bc I think I found a solid source. Just superdrol is soo much cheaper. Like a superdrol test cycle would be pretty cheap and be the look I want

I wanna do test p, but injecting ed sounds ****ty
 
FitnessLuke said:
Well I dont have to go otc bc I think I found a solid source. Just superdrol is soo much cheaper. Like a superdrol test cycle would be pretty cheap and be the look I want

I wanna do test p, but injecting ed sounds ****ty
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If you haven't doNE it before it kind of sucks it gets old FAST even rotsting sites I've been injecting at least eod usually ed for bout 7 weeks now and I'm ready to come off my short Esther and just stick with my cyp 2× a week now that it's fully kicked in
 
mixedup said:
If you haven't doNE it before it kind of sucks it gets old FAST even rotsting sites I've been injecting at least eod usually ed for bout 7 weeks now and I'm ready to come off my short Esther and just stick with my cyp 2× a week now that it's fully kicked in
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Truth.
E/d injects get super sucky after 8 weeks.

You wake up and be like, shiiiiit, time for another one.
 
jbryand101b said:
Ha, maybe.
You'll be happy with 600mg of test cyp.
Don't worry about if it's equal.
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How much on cycle support should I need? For my first real cycle I want to see how I react. I was thinking 12.5 mg aromasin e.d would work and last two weeks use low dose of hcg. Then four weeks of nolva with with more aromasin
 
I live Dymethazine/Triumphalis/Epistane over traditional orals like dianabol, winstrol or anavar. With the exception being legit anavar if I could ever try some. I like to run a replacement dose of test with it these days.
 
FitnessLuke said:
Okay Id like to run tbol or dbol, but really designer roids like hdrol/msten are way cheaper and at least there is quality control.

Wouldn't that make designer roids a better buy?

I mean the trade off is that theyre too new to see long term effects. However, roids made in the black market could be anything
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Go with aas always
 
reps4jesus said:
Oh? How was your run with dbol? You haven't ran it? Makes sense now.
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Lol I'm just not a fan of what I have seen. Can I not make an assumption and make up my mind after doing research on the compound if I'd rather use something else as it is for my goals
 
reps4jesus said:
Go with aas always
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I think many so called designers are as good as any aas ive used and I've used just about everything.

Dbol oral and injectable
winstrol oral and injectablet
Ana var
Anadrol

I'd put sdol,msten,and phEra on equal ground with any of those orals. Only oral
used that I don't think any otc can compare to is halotestin
 
Im jumping over all of the prior conversations, sorry, but turns out all the superdrol clones are banned. I swear I keep my eyes off the market for a couple months and the good stuff gets banned
 
Are they about equal in terms of hairloss? I know its a risk.. Im just tryna avoid something thats got a terrible track record for that side.

Ran epi and didnt notice increased shedding
 
FitnessLuke said:
Are they about equal in terms of hairloss? I know its a risk.. Im just tryna avoid something thats got a terrible track record for that side. Ran epi and didnt notice increased shedding
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Msten vs DMZ in hairloss? On paper I'd say msten, but dmz is dryer and dryer compounds are known for sometimes being more harsh on hair because of Dht
 
I don't have hair loss on any dht derivatives like dmz or superdrol. My problems are the test derivatives Hdrol, test, pct.
 
Hmm good to know. I mean epistane is notorious for hair problems and I never really had a problem. Hopefully these compounds will be the same. However, I will be running 400-600 mg of test e, so that might wreck havoc on my hair in itself.
 
Yeah I got dry joints around week 5

Think im guna go with ultradrol clone bc im just kick starting a cycle and im assuming you can only loose so much hair in 3-4 weeks
 
dezzy84 said:
Yeah you will be fine. Have you looked into a finaasteride/ketoconazole/rogain protocol?
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I kinda have, but im scared about the side effects really.

What would net better gains a 8 week test e cycle with 6 weeks turinabol or 8 weeks test with 4 weeks ultradrol clone?
 
I would say the 6 week just because it's longer. I have never tried turinabol though. I run orals for 8 weeks max no problems.
 
dezzy84 said:
I would say the 6 week just because it's longer. I have never tried turinabol though. I run orals for 8 weeks max no problems.
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Even harsh ones like msten?

Ive done Halodrol solo and it was good didnt stack with test so im sure that alone limited the potential.

It sucks tbol is 90 for a cycle hdrol is like 40 and same with msten. It be nice making better gains, but also nice saving money
 
Msten and Hdrol are just as effective as turinabol based on what I have read. They are all steroids. I would never pay for turinabol with Hdrol being so similar, legal, and cheaper. I have ran Hdrol before. It was ok, I didn't like some of the side effects. I stick to my dht derivatives. I feel liver damage from steroids are over stated. My liver values are always fine even right after I run orals. But I also take liv 52 and take good care of myself in general. My blood work is always flawless. So yeah I run orals 8 weeks but I wouldn't recommend any longer. The magical 4-6 weeks is bro science.
 
A difference of two weeks doesn't make much of a difference in my experience. My liver has always been fine. 4-6 weeks is the magical "safe" protocol for orals though. Everyone is different. Take it or leave it.
 
dezzy84 said:
A difference of two weeks doesn't make much of a difference in my experience. My liver has always been fine. 4-6 weeks is the magical "safe" protocol for orals though. Everyone is different. Take it or leave it.
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Because what happens in research studies is magical and your opinion fact.

Look, if you want to take steroids for 8 weeks, that's great. There IS nothing wrong with that.
But don't come here and state using steroids for 4-6 weeks isn't going to keep a person safe.

With steroids, the less time the less damage done. Methylated or not.

Why do you run a magical 8 weeks when there are numerous medical studies of people using steroids like anadrol for 20 weeks.

If you run superdrol, m1t, etc at full dosage for more than 5 weeks you won't want to keep going.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Lol I'm just not a fan of what I have seen. Can I not make an assumption and make up my mind after doing research on the compound if I'd rather use something else as it is for my goals
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Nope. If you haven't ran it I wouldn't go around talking like you know. Big difference between what the internet says and real experience.
 
reps4jesus said:
Nope. If you haven't ran it I wouldn't go around talking like you know. Big difference between what the internet says and real experience.
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I just said there was other things I'd run before running dbol. It is my personal preference as it isn't something that has caught my attention. So everything on dbol on the internet is all not true? I understand everyone reacts differently but come on man lol
 
Abe Lincoln said:
I just said there was other things I'd run before running dbol. It is my personal preference as it isn't something that has caught my attention. So everything on dbol on the internet is all not true? I understand everyone reacts differently but come on man lol
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Yeah, the internet is full of people who don't know what they're talking about.
 
And it is full of people that do know what they are talking about as well.. I mean at least you think you know what you are talking about? So there must be more.
 
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