RPN HAVOC

[GTLV]

Hi guys,

I've signed up to get some first hand experience and opinions of RPN Havoc. I wish to try a 4 week cycle (my first one) and I've done some lengthy research into it, and wondered if I have forgotten anything that I need.

Obviously if a similar thread exists with answers, feel free to link me to it.

So, Pre cycle i'd do 2 weeks of;

Fish Oil - 1 cap per day
Liv.52 - 2 caps per day

[is a cycle assist important?]

Cycle -

On Cycle
20/30/40/40 [mg]
Liv.52 - 2 caps per day
Fish Oil - 3 cap per day
Taurine - 6g a day [prevents back pumps, along with 4lt + water a day]

PCT
nolva and 6 oxo [what quantities and frequencies would be advised?]

Obviously I will not attempt this until I have an air tight plan devised.


Thanks in advance for any help

 

[hvactech]

4 weeks with havoc is a waste, go atleast 5-6, check out other logs for what others have been doing

 

[ccp]

Run 5-6 weeks. Also if you run an AI in PCT I would recommend switching to Erase. You get some cortisol control from it as well. Also use the cycle support products, your liver isn't the only thing that needs support.

 

[FranARG]

Go for 6 weeks at 40mg, you will be fine. I am on week 4 of a 6 week cycle of Havoc actually, at 40mg ED, and have only minor sides suchs a lose of libido (though I can still have strong erections, I just dont feel like having sex the way I did before), and night sweats.

I would suggest adding a Cycle Assist supp.

For PCT, run Nolva at 20/20/10/10 along with an AI such as Erase. You can also throw in a natty test booster.

Good luck!

 

[JD284]

Check out N2Guard - a little pricey but it is the best. Anything harsher like superdrol or m1t u need N2 /aegis

 

[GTLV]

Hi guys, really appreciate the input so far; I am not rushing into anything and my target start date is the 20/7 so I have plenty of time to get this all perfect and get enough knowledge on what I'm doing.

Below is my latest plan; please critique accordingly


thanks again guys I bow to your better knowledge!





6 Week Cycle – RPN HAVOC


Pre Cycle

Fish Oil - 1 cap per day
Liv.52 - 2 caps per day
CEL Cycle Assist: Preload 2 weeks in advance and continue through PCT
CEL Cycle Assist 4 caps 2am 2pm



Cycle

RPN HAVOC 30/30/40/40/40/40 [mg]
Liv.52 - 2 caps per day
Fish Oil - 3 cap per day
Taurine - 6g a day CEL Cycle Assist 4 caps 2am 2pm
4Lt water ED




PCT
Liquid Tamox (Nolva): 40/40/20/20

PES erase: 0/0/3/2/2/1 caps is this weeks 1-6 through cycle or 6 weeks after cycle. Timing of caps?

Horny Goat Weed – Normal dosing through PCT

Length of PCT in weeks?






Dosage timing
30mg week:
10:30am - 10 mg havoc
12:00pm - cycle assist, fish oil, multivitamin, Liv.52
5:30pm - 10 mg havoc [before gym]
7:00pm - cycle assist, fish oil, multivitamin, Liv.52
10:30pm - 10 mg havoc

40mg week:
10:30am - 10 mg havoc
12:00pm - cycle assist, fish oil, multivitamin, Liv.52
5:30pm - 20 mg havoc [before gym]
7:00pm - cycle assist, fish oil, multivitamin, Liv.52
10:30pm - 10 mg havoc

Taurine when? Suggested Usage: As a dietary supplement take 1 level scoop (1000 mg) or 1 vegetable capsule, with water or your favourite beverage 2-3 times daily with meals or on an empty stomach

 

[GTLV]

bump

 

[JD284]

I did a var cycle recently and started my AI on day 1 pct with clomid. definitely gonna try nolva next time, im getting a lot of sides from the clomid.
i would do PCT 4-6 weeks.. then a 4-6 week break after PCT before another cycle of something. use the erase before bed.

is that 2 bottles of havoc?

 

[AndroRage]

Go for 6 weeks at 40mg, you will be fine. I am on week 4 of a 6 week cycle of Havoc actually, at 40mg ED, and have only minor sides suchs a lose of libido (though I can still have strong erections, I just dont feel like having sex the way I did before), and night sweats.

I would suggest adding a Cycle Assist supp.

For PCT, run Nolva at 20/20/10/10 along with an AI such as Erase. You can also throw in a natty test booster.

Good luck!

Is your 6 weeker 40mg all the way through, like from day 1 or? Also how many bottle are you using? Thanks

 

[GTLV]

I did a var cycle recently and started my AI on day 1 pct with clomid. definitely gonna try nolva next time, im getting a lot of sides from the clomid.
i would do PCT 4-6 weeks.. then a 4-6 week break after PCT before another cycle of something. use the erase before bed.

is that 2 bottles of havoc?

what type of sides?

and i guess so, i havent looked into quantities of the product ill need yet, thats the simple part! so you start the AI on your first day of PCT?

 

[threeFs]

I ran a log when I cycled havoc. You can find it under my profile, latest threads started.

It's not all lollipops and roses, beware

 

[GTLV]

I ran a log when I cycled havoc. You can find it under my profile, latest threads started.

It's not all lollipops and roses, beware

hi mate,


i had a look through a few pages (there are a lot) can you just give me the cliffs of what you meant, just a summary of your experience, it didnt seem to be going too badly from what I got up to..

 

[JD284]

what type of sides?

and i guess so, i havent looked into quantities of the product ill need yet, thats the simple part! so you start the AI on your first day of PCT?

Yeah I started my AI on Day 1 PCT.

I just read this: (cant post link, google elite fitness CLOMID - THE BIG LIE)

I actuaqlly feel more shut down on clomid than during my cycle.

Perhaps I wasn't as suppressed as I thought I was.. or an AI (Lecheek AD-3) + clomid is just too much??

I'm getting textbook sides - bloating, headache, occasional dizziness. Bottom line - i feel like crap since I've taken it. And something is going on with cardiovascular- occasional shortness of breath.

I've read about people who get no sides from clomid, and people who get sides like this and say nolva is the way to go. Everything is processed by everyone differently.

 

[threeFs]

hi mate,

i had a look through a few pages (there are a lot) can you just give me the cliffs of what you meant, just a summary of your experience, it didnt seem to be going too badly from what I got up to..

You're retarded. How about that?

Go ahead and be lazy. Destroy your endocrine system because reading for 10 minutes was harder than cycling for 50 days. I can't help you anymore. I can't believe anybody would ask something like that.

 

[JD261985]

You're retarded. How about that?

Go ahead and be lazy. Destroy your endocrine system because reading for 10 minutes was harder than cycling for 50 days. I can't help you anymore. I can't believe anybody would ask something like that.

A little harsh but I see what you mean lol

 

[Lukef2000]

Hmm so you've done research you say... Don't mean to sound like a dick but if you did actually do "lengthy research" you wouldn't be asking people to spoonfeed you a cycle layout. In my honest opinion you need to do more research so you better understand what your putting into your body and how you can be proactive in the battle against negative side effects and recovery.