silver39 New member May 23, 2012 #1 I took Havoc about 3 years ago and had great gains from it but am wondering if this newer version is still something close? If not is there anything on the market close to the former Havoc? Thanks
I took Havoc about 3 years ago and had great gains from it but am wondering if this newer version is still something close? If not is there anything on the market close to the former Havoc? Thanks
bigdavid Well-known member May 23, 2012 #2 How has the product changed? It worked for me I did a cycle of it a few months ago still gtg.
silver39 New member May 23, 2012 #3 bigdavid said: How has the product changed? It worked for me I did a cycle of it a few months ago still gtg. Click to expand... I thought the original product back in like 2008 was banned due to pro hormone issues or something similar, and the new bottles were a lesser version?
bigdavid said: How has the product changed? It worked for me I did a cycle of it a few months ago still gtg. Click to expand... I thought the original product back in like 2008 was banned due to pro hormone issues or something similar, and the new bottles were a lesser version?
bigdavid Well-known member May 23, 2012 #4 silver39 said: I thought the original product back in like 2008 was banned due to pro hormone issues or something similar, and the new bottles were a lesser version? Click to expand... No idea tbh but it is the same as IBE epistane currently.
silver39 said: I thought the original product back in like 2008 was banned due to pro hormone issues or something similar, and the new bottles were a lesser version? Click to expand... No idea tbh but it is the same as IBE epistane currently.
TonyGT Active member May 23, 2012 #5 I'll know if it works in a couple day when I start my cycle. I mean it does have the sulphur smell that Epi is supposed to have.
I'll know if it works in a couple day when I start my cycle. I mean it does have the sulphur smell that Epi is supposed to have.
Carlr6 New member May 24, 2012 #6 Im impressed, currently in week 3 of Havoc cycle, Im no expert as this is only my first ph cycle, but weight is up nearly 5kg and feel great.
Im impressed, currently in week 3 of Havoc cycle, Im no expert as this is only my first ph cycle, but weight is up nearly 5kg and feel great.
CCarter New member May 24, 2012 #7 I just finished a cycle of havoc, used ibe last year. Gains are almost identical.