Rotating 5+ stimulants (with different tolerances) on a cut to avoid tolerance?

[Lionheart1776]

I will be cutting in nine weeks after I finish this bulk and gp back to my TRT dose for twelve weeks (100mg test M'T) and wanted to make the most of my "downtime"/ By leaning out so I can run longer on bulk #2.

I already do boat loads of cardio since I enjoy cycling and long podcast walks, think 14ish hours a week year round. I also enjoy eating an absolute **** ton of food, on my last cut I had a hard time keep my calories below 2500 a day which for me equated to a measly 2 lb fat loss per month or so.

So on my next cut I want to rotate different appetite suppressants and get the most out of their individual effects. My stack to work with will be modafil, ephedrine, caffine, yomambine, and albuterol.

A rough sample might look as follows.

2 weeks EC 25/200 (Beta receptor agonist)
2 weeks Modafil (100mgs) my standard study dose anyways. (Mostly a mental stimulant but kills appetite nicely) (Low dose Benadryl to help clear the histamine from the modafil (The histamine can keep you up longer.) well also "cleansing" the beta receptors.
2 (Albuterol at standard dose. (I need to look it up.)( Beta receptors targeted as well but not the same ones in the same quantities as EC so not a complete tolerance overlap with EC.)
2 Yohambine HCL at standard dose. (I need to look it up.) (Alpha receptor tolerance) (Low dose Benedryl to clean the receptors from the Albuterol.)

(Rinse and repeat.)

Other notes on this stack. Modafil can be ran through out since it builds tolerance much more slowly. Also on days of temptation I would probably double up the dose since it is more effective as a appetite suppressant at 200mg but keeps one awake for the next 20-30 hours. (Good for a Friday or something.)

I have a decent but certainty incomplete understating of most of these compounds. My goal of this thread is to polish my understanding of their effects and effective use for the purpose of cutting as well as taking the very basic and un-optimal stack listed above and polishing it to perfection.

Feel free to share ideas on other stimulants and cutting aids as well. t3 is more than most of us need but I'd still like to discuss adding it in since it can be taken fairly safely and can really be useful towards the end of a cut when out metabolisms slow down. I would rather not discuss clen and DNP if it can be avoided since they seem to be far to harsh and potentially dangerous. Also I am curios what tolerance mechanism adderall works on although if I were to throw it in it would be a low dose comparable in strength to the EC stack and used as a "tolerance bridge."

 

[AntM1564]

I can only compare this to PWO stimulants. I have no studies on my post, but just what I have done and noticed. I use stimulants 3-4 times a week. Depending on the week, I will use anywhere from 200-400 mg and sometimes with exotic stims. Here is what it would look like:

Week 1 - 200-300 mg
Week 2 - 300-400 mg
Week 3 - 300-400 mg with DHAA, DMAA, etc
Week 4 - Repeat

If I use a stim for a fourth day in each week, it is only 150 mg.

I have noticed I do not need stim breaks. Once in a while I will take a one week break, but that is all I need and it isn't truly needed.

 

[Lionheart1776]

I can only compare this to PWO stimulants. I have no studies on my post, but just what I have done and noticed. I use stimulants 3-4 times a week. Depending on the week, I will use anywhere from 200-400 mg and sometimes with exotic stims. Here is what it would look like:

Week 1 - 200-300 mg
Week 2 - 300-400 mg
Week 3 - 300-400 mg with DHAA, DMAA, etc
Week 4 - Repeat

If I use a stim for a fourth day in each week, it is only 150 mg.

I have noticed I do not need stim breaks. Once in a while I will take a one week break, but that is all I need and it isn't truly needed.

Now that you mention that I've been using EC as a pre-workout every other day and just now noticed how strange it is that I've built little to no tolerance to it since it still kicks like hell 6 weeks in. Also thanks for the stimulant ideas, I never even heard of DHAA or DMAA I always figured pre workouts where just caffeine and like taurine or something like mine were in high-school. Another rabbit whole of research to fall into today lol.

 

[AntM1564]

Now that you mention that I've been using EC as a pre-workout every other day and just now noticed how strange it is that I've built little to no tolerance to it since it still kicks like hell 6 weeks in. Also thanks for the stimulant ideas, I never even heard of DHAA or DMAA I always figured pre workouts where just caffeine and like taurine or something like mine were in high-school. Another rabbit whole of research to fall into today lol.

Yea man, pre workouts and energy drinks are much more than caffeine now. You probably won't find DMAA unless it is older, same thing with AMP. Eria Jarnesis is some good stuff though.