rookie question about test

jamalgq

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I recently justgot two cycles of strong test. I plan on doing one cycle at a time throughoutthe next 6 months. I do the 1 cc per week for 10 wks as one cycle, a month or so off , and then one more cycle. My budy told me to go about it in a different route:

wks 1-2 = 1 cc
wks 3-4 = 2 ccs
wks 5-6 = 3 ccs
wks 7-8 = 2 ccs
wks 9-10 = 1 cc


or pretty close to that kind ofplan for bettergains than my original plan. I just about to havethe third dose on saturday and that would be the time to pick it up if I went that route. So I could use a little guidance here on that. also should I start to be noticing significant gains or more weight in my sets yet? All of exercises thus far have gone up pretty decently, and I don't know if it was from the test or more pyschological as of right now. Some people say that it burns or hurts when they use this as well, but I have had no apin from it whatsoever. My buddytold me to run it under warm water before I use it and it will help out. So I have done it twice so far and no pain either time. I'm also using 1cc needles that are 29 gauge. Which sucks because they are harder to draw the test with and inject. Maybe thats cuzzing meno pain? My friend said that he started to notice the pain from it after about amonth, anyone else?

thanks for your help
 
there's no use pyramiding the dose up and down like that during the cycle. also, 2 injections per week are recommended to keep blood levels more stable. 29G's? can't imagine the patience to draw up with that. you'd be better off drawing with 21's.
 
/me throws jamalgq a flame retardant suit! :D

Ok, the cc's are almost irrelevant because there is test in 100mg/cc, 200mg/cc, 250mg/cc, 275mg/cc, 350mg/cc, 400mg/cc, and 450mg/cc. Those are the different denominations I've seen. There may be more, too. So, basically, in 2cc's you could theoretically be getting anywhere from 200mg of Test to 900mg of Test per week! That's a huge variation.

The pyramiding is unecessary.

29guage is for something like insulin...that's too small for Test. I'd suggest 25guage at the smallest. 20guage to draw from the vial 25 guage needle to inject. You probably want 1.5" needles, too. Some places 1" will be OK, but others you have a greater risk of infection if it's too shallow. (I know, it sounds odd, huh?)

Most likely, the increase in lifts is from the test. Even if it's psychological it would probably be a result of the Test making you more aggressive, therefore motivated in the gym.

Spread your shots out 2x a week, as mentioned above ;)

I'd suggest you do more research before your next cycle, and make sure you have Nolva on hand, now! Just in case you get gyno! Don't want bitch tits!
 
ok then maybe someone can help here and let me know which kind I have. I can't read spanish but maybe someone has seen or as the experience to let me know.
label says :
testerona 4L-A (in a 10ml bottle) by loeffler
decanoato de testosterona 100mg
ferilprpionato de testosterona 60mg
isocarproato de testosterona 30 mg
excipiente c.b.p 1ml

SO when you say spread out my shots 2x a week, do you mean take two full shots (2ccs) per week and double up // or do you mean take .5 cc and then another .5cc a few days later and so on? Also I don't have anyidea right now on where to get nolva if needed
 
Bra-dah I suggest you do ALOT more research. I recon. this is your 1st cycle and all I did for my 1st was 500mg of Test E twice a week (250mg Mon & 250mg Thur). No smaller than a 23g needle...
oh and don't for get your PCT's.
 
jamalgq said:
ok then maybe someone can help here and let me know which kind I have. I can't read spanish but maybe someone has seen or as the experience to let me know.
label says :
testerona 4L-A (in a 10ml bottle) by loeffler
decanoato de testosterona 100mg
ferilprpionato de testosterona 60mg
isocarproato de testosterona 30 mg
excipiente c.b.p 1ml
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Well...I don't speak spanish either, but it looks like you've got test blend with 3 different esters, totalling 190mg/ml or 190mg/cc. With the three esters, I'd assume it's time released, so you may even want to split it up into 3 x a week injections! i.e. 1cc monday, 1cc wednesday, 1cc friday.

Maybe someone who speaks spanish can clarify this matter....:think:
SO when you say spread out my shots 2x a week, do you mean take two full shots (2ccs) per week and double up // or do you mean take .5 cc and then another .5cc a few days later and so on? Also I don't have anyidea right now on where to get nolva if needed
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See above for dosing and to get Nolva, I'd do a search for IBE nutrition on this forum, and do a Nolva search. You need to get some ASAP!!!

Dude...do you even know what Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is? If the answer is no, start researching FAST!
 
What you've got (I'm pretty sure) is a product similar to sustanon. But please as everyone else has said research EVERYTHING before you grab the needle. That includes diet, training, injection, technique, side effects etc. etc. etc. You could really F yourself up if you're not careful. Personally, no offense bro, if you don't even know what you've got you've got absolutely no business loading it into a syringe. There's alot of good info on this board and others. Just be patient and do your homework and you will be better off in the long run.
 
You badly need to learn more.

First, forget everything your friend told you. If you are set on using this product, then do the following:
This is assuming you have 20cc's of test
1. For the first 2 weeks, take 3cc's in 3 equally divided dosages. Such as 1cc on Mon, 1cc on Wed and 1cc on Fri
2. For the next 7 weeks, take 2cc weekly in divided`but equal dosages. Such as 1cc on Mon and 1cc on Fri
3. Inject using either a 23 or 25 gauge needle. A 29g is too small for that product. It will take too much time and force for it to pass thru a 29.
 
Looks like sustanon. Follow size's example.
Then do a search on " pct* " or " post cycle therapy "
If you dont do pct after your cycle, say goodbye to your hard earned gains.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Well...I don't speak spanish either, but it looks like you've got test blend with 3 different esters, totalling 190mg/ml or 190mg/cc. With the three esters, I'd assume it's time released, so you may even want to split it up into 3 x a week injections! i.e. 1cc monday, 1cc wednesday, 1cc friday.

Maybe someone who speaks spanish can clarify this matter....:think:
See above for dosing and to get Nolva, I'd do a search for IBE nutrition on this forum, and do a Nolva search. You need to get some ASAP!!!

Dude...do you even know what Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is? If the answer is no, start researching FAST!
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ok , I checked it out some more and this is the loeffler brand of sustanon // and so far I've done 2 injecionts in two wks // so thats 2ccs // my diet and my training are like clockwork // I eat enough and have enough supplements // for my 3rd wk if I do up the dosage to more than the 1cc // I have to def get nolva then // and check out pct // I compared this to the sust and its almost identical // I think one ester was like 5mg diff if i recall or else they were exact . I'm going to do more hmwk really quick seeing as how I already started this I don't want to stop //is it safe to use the entire 20 ccs like SIZE said to do ? // if so I take it that I would pretty much blow up ? right? // I have a decent size now // 16% bodyfat at 5'8" and 202 lbs // I can put a decent amount of weight up and thats before the juice // the juice hasn't effected me that much yet because like I said in 2 wks I only had 2 ccs // but thats gonna change now
 
I've been checking out the pct and found quite a bit of info. Can anyone with experience let me know what I should be doing about my pct for a cycle of 20 ccs of test? I found out about a few things that I should be taking and they are listed at this site Invalid Link Removed . Anyone ever order from here or know of a better spot please pm me and let me know. That would def. be appreciated. I'm getting kinda ancy just waiting for some replies because now I have even more questions to be answered . All the help is SOSO appreciated guys . I really need this more than you can imagine. I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to help out a rookie at this like myself. With your help I'll do everything correctly and have no problems. I'm gonna go to the gym right now for a while and destroy my shoulders, I'll be back on tonight. later
 
jamalgq said:
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Okay, so it's like sustanon. That means you would want to take injections every other day (EOD). You'd also want a minimum of about 500mg per week of the product. Since it appears there are 190mg/mL of the product (1ml = 1cc) I would just round up and take 1mL 3 x a week, I.E. monday, wednesday, and friday. Totalling 3cc / week!

It's time realeased with slow and fast acting esters, that's why you need to take it 3x a week...to keep the hormone levels consistent.

I would consider getting more test and extending the cycle for 10-12 weeks @ 3cc's (or a total of 570mg per week--180mg/cc*3cc=570mg). JUST GET NOLVA FAST and LEARN PCT FAST.
 
Okay, I found out it's 250mg/mL, not 190mg/mL...so that means, I'd use 2/3 of a CC EOD to get 500mg/week. If you use the whole 1cc, you'll get 750mg/week. I'll leave that up to you. 500mg/week should suffice for a first cycle.
 
My advice is the correct way to use the testosterone you have for your cycle.
Post cycle and anti-e's can be easily learned about on this site.
It would be prudent to learn more as you do not seem to comprehend what you will be doing to your body. These drugs can have consequences when used incorrectly.
 
size said:
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This is assuming you have 20cc's of test
1. For the first 2 weeks, take 3cc's in 3 equally divided dosages. Such as 1cc on Mon, 1cc on Wed and 1cc on Fri
2. For the next 7 weeks, take 2cc weekly in divided but equal dosages. Such as 1cc on Mon and 1cc on Fri
3. Inject using either a 23 or 25 gauge needle. A 29g is too small for that product. It will take too much time and force for it to pass thru a 29.
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Figured I'd go ahea and quote it for him :D

Anyway, with the time release, wouldn't EOD throughout the entire cycle be a bit more benificial? I.E. my 2/3 CC * 3 injections = 2cc's a week, but it's just EOD. Or is all of the sust EOD business just hype???
 
thanks a ton , you guys rock!!!!
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ever hear of ZMA , anabolic mineral support formula??
its by precision engineering and its suppose to help play a key role in the anabolic synthesis of testosterone. it sasy to take 3 caps on an empty stomach every night before bed. I'm sure its not intended for the testosterone when cycling but is it still safe to use while im on my cycle?? I also take in a ton of the protein but I mix in amino acids and flax oil with my shakes a few times a day as indicated on the bottles? Still good to do??
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Figured I'd go ahea and quote it for him :D

Anyway, with the time release, wouldn't EOD throughout the entire cycle be a bit more benificial? I.E. my 2/3 CC * 3 injections = 2cc's a week, but it's just EOD. Or is all of the sust EOD business just hype???
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The suggestion is fine, but 2/3 of a cc is more difficult to draw and since he seems to be a novice to AAS fewer injections = easier. The cycle I wrote out is only 3cc for 2 weeks.
 
ok I found where to grab some nolva from, Invalid Link Removed , anyone here order from here ? its $30 for a 20mg/ml in a 60 ml vial. would one bottle be sufficient? and taken orally? is there a certain amount you reccomend I take and when to start taking it on this cycle?
 
This, you should be able to figure out for yourself ;) We can't do all the work for you...it takes the fun out of it :D IBE Nutrition is used by members here...the rest is a little research and some simple mathematics ;)
 
size said:
The suggestion is fine, but 2/3 of a cc is more difficult to draw and since he seems to be a novice to AAS fewer injections = easier. The cycle I wrote out is only 3cc for 2 weeks.
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Ahh...gotcha. I didnt catch that ;)

jamalgq said:
will the both cycle programs yeild basically the same results?
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Yes, basically. Especially since the majority of the time you'd only be taking 2cc/week...
 
so if i already took 2 ccs in the last two weeks, one per week, should I jump right into the three shots for the next two weeks or should i go into the two shots per week?

And yes I know I'm asking a lot , but i'll do my hmwk for pct and order my stuff this weekend from that site, thanks bro
 
I personally would just do the 2 shots per week. You've already taken 1cc/week for 2 weeks. Size was suggesting 1.5cc per week over two weeks. Not a huge difference...but I'd wait to see what he has to say. His suggestion is probably better than mine ;)
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I personally would just do the 2 shots per week. You've already taken 1cc/week for 2 weeks. Size was suggesting 1.5cc per week over two weeks. Not a huge difference...but I'd wait to see what he has to say. His suggestion is probably better than mine ;)
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I was thinking that I should just start doing the two a week , but I agree I should see what Size says.
 
Start taking 2cc's weekly. However, doing research on how to properly use these hormones will benefit you in the long run rather than simply listening to suggestions.
 
yes Size , i totally agree , I have spent the last 8-12 hrs looking info up , I can't read enough , I just keep soaking all this new info up that I wish I had this much info in front of me a month ago when I was planning this. I think I have my pct down pretty good as well . I'm placing my order this mon morn. I'm totally pumped I took some before pics and I'll post them half way thru to see the changes half way thru my cycle. I owe alot to the two of you guys. Thanks
 
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