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rob112 said:
I think if it is an issue rule books will have to be clear. WNPF said no heaving premeet. Now some people had some movement, but nothing like Green and Bell where they seem like they are going to fold in half.
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Ehh sounds like flopping in the NBA lol. Unless it's blatantly obvious I don't think that there is any way to get a no lift.. Dan green is a little ridiculous with it, tbh. I've never really read a rule book at all, don't know how thorough they are.
 
They are both amazing lifters and I'm not going to say they are right or wrong just going to learn as much from them as possible
 
Maybe some more people will chime in...or possibly I'll make a thread in the subforum.
 
After 30 seconds of research I see that a true heave is when you get the press command and then you let the bar sink to catapult the weight off of your press. When given the command the bar must move away from the body. So as you can see with the mentioned lifters they have the bar in the chest, wait for the press command, and then violently move the weight away from the body. Seems legal.

I would imagine this much harder in no head lift Feds
 
rob112 said:
After 30 seconds of research I see that a true heave is when you get the press command and then you let the bar sink to catapult the weight off of your press. When given the command the bar must move away from the body. So as you can see with the mentioned lifters they have the bar in the chest, wait for the press command, and then violently move the weight away from the body. Seems legal.

I would imagine this much harder in no head lift Feds
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Yep, completely legal.


The only time I've ever seen someone red lighted for it was when the judge called the press command to early. He was still sinking the weight in (read: downward movement had not stopped) when they called for the press so he was red lighted.

It wasn't a big deal though, because we just made sure the judge knew he was letting it sink into the chest before any of his other attempts.
 
jimbuick said:
Yep, completely legal.

The only time I've ever seen someone red lighted for it was when the judge called the press command to early. He was still sinking the weight in (read: downward movement had not stopped) when they called for the press so he was red lighted.

It wasn't a big deal though, because we just made sure the judge knew he was letting it sink into the chest before any of his other attempts.
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And a wild JimBuick appears!

That's crazy bc the judge shouldn't say anything until it stops haha. I'd imagine it could be difficult to judge a meet as you would probably try to start timing it to give the lifters a good opportunity to PR.
 
rob112 said:
it could be difficult to judge a meet as you would probably try to start timing it to give the lifters a good opportunity to PR.
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Or, the way I judge backyard meets, which is to be strict and give the lifters a good fúcking.
 
September 10th Training

Comp Dead
135 x 5
225 x 5
275 x 3
315 x 5@7
365 x [email protected]
This is the low end of my goal, didn't want to risk it going up another set as this didn't hurt, but I am changing my form and getting used to it.
345 x [email protected]

Lilly Bench
Bar(50lb) x 8
100 x 4
140 x 3
190 x [email protected]
210 x 3@8
225 x [email protected]
235 x 3@9
225 x [email protected]
Well this went well. Hard to hit a groove on each first rep and I slightly aggravated the bicep. Nothing that I don't think rest and some work won't fix for next session.

Tempo Squats(3-0-3)(beltless)
Bar x 7
135 x 7
185 x 7@7
225 x 7@8
245 x 7@9
235 x 7@9
This was just absolutely horrible. One of the worst things I have done. I finally get good with speed, and then to try and go slow...man that sucked lol

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Kind of in a rush. Will check out you guys's logs in a little I see a ton of action in my feed.
 
Get tighter in the lats at the beginning of the pull as your shoulders drift slightly forward. Stiff bar or DL bar?
 
About half the deadlifts your hips seem to shoot up to break the weight of the ground. But they look better than last weeks.

The tempo squats looked brutal, probably could have gotten an inch or two lower. But I can't blame you with that TuT.

Good session Rob T.
 
Rodja said:
Get tighter in the lats at the beginning of the pull as your shoulders drift slightly forward. Stiff bar or DL bar?
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That one is a deadlift bar. Definitely having some issues here. Maybe I'm not pulling tight enough before the bar leaves the floor...
 
liftandswim said:
About half the deadlifts your hips seem to shoot up to break the weight of the ground. But they look better than last weeks.

The tempo squats looked brutal, probably could have gotten an inch or two lower. But I can't blame you with that TuT.

Good session Rob T.
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Thanks sir, they totally sucked ass. I was attempting to count down and when I got to 3 in my head shoot back up. Definitely a very hard exercise...especially after yesterday's squats! Haha
 
rob112 said:
That one is a deadlift bar. Definitely having some issues here. Maybe I'm not pulling tight enough before the bar leaves the floor...
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If you can, get a closer shot and at an angle as well. It could easily be not pulling out the slack like you said.
 
The first time you use a real DL bar at a meet its a special moment. For both your pull and your hands afterwards.
 
CountryLiftin said:
The first time you use a real DL bar at a meet its a special moment. For both your pull and your hands afterwards.
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whats the difference from a standard bar.? I usually use Rogue bars, which I'm assuming are mostly for Oly.
(I obviously know nothing about this.....)
 
Wrivest said:
whats the difference from a standard bar.? I usually use Rogue bars, which I'm assuming are mostly for Oly. (I obviously know nothing about this.....)
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The stiffness of the bar and possibly the circumference (not sure the thickness of the Rogue bars). A deadlift bar will have a ton of flex to the bar and learning how to take out the slack before pulling is part of essential deadlift technique. All bars have some flex to them, but the deadlift bar has much more. If you've ever seen Green pull, you'll see what I'm talking about on the flex of the bar.
 
Yup. And if you use crappy bars the knurling is unreal on a good DL. Or any good bar really.
 
I got some killer DOMs over my entire body right now...and my core is rocked from this beltless work. Holy ****
 
Duramaxhd said:
Ice bath time?
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Dude, that would take me 45 minutes to get into. If I get time I'll Epsom salt. Gonna hit some soft tissue today. RTS is going to take some getting used to, but I am loving it so I just gotta man up like my man DMax would y'all! :D
 
Reverse bands squats(nothing at the too, watch vid)
Bar x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
+belt
275 x 3
+reverse orange
315 x 2 x 1
+wraps
345 x 4@7
365 x 4@8
380 x 4@9
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No drop sets as my left arm dying out. I felt beat to **** going into this workout so I am very happy with where I got to. Gonna work the shoulder/elbow area. I didn't really warm it up good before hand. Not worried about it, but will take better care.

Due to my left arm feeling dead(not in pain) on bench I couldn't go heavy so I did repeats
TnG bench
Bar x 12
95 x 5
135 x 5
155 x 5
185 x 5
205 x 5@8
205 x [email protected]

Close grip
135 x 7
155 x [email protected]
155 x 7@8
155 x [email protected]
Short rests but I had to call an audible since I couldn't go heavy.

Just gotta put together a good session tomorrow and then 2 days if rest. I knew this was going to be hard to get used to I just gotta man up. Super excited about my squats. I think if I felt like I did Tuesday I go to around 405.

End ramble lol
 
Nice squats man! How was that jump from 205-295 on bench lol.. Training everything multiple times a week with the intensity that you do would be rough. I think come meet day it will help though.
 
capo180 said:
Nice squats man! How was that jump from 205-295 on bench lol.. Training everything multiple times a week with the intensity that you do would be rough. I think come meet day it will help though.
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Lol I thinks that's a typo on the bench.

I have to say, the squats did look smoother. Looked almost easy for ya. How much were the bands taking out at the bottom?
 
capo180 said:
Nice squats man! How was that jump from 205-295 on bench lol.. Training everything multiple times a week with the intensity that you do would be rough. I think come meet day it will help though.
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Lol typo, just did some repeats

That's the plan, my confidence is up in bench and squats for a PR. Just need to build up some momentum on pulls!
 
liftandswim said:
Lol I thinks that's a typo on the bench.

I have to say, the squats did look smoother. Looked almost easy for ya. How much were the bands taking out at the bottom?
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You know it is hard to tell. That guy behind me was my gym owner and he said they weren't helping much considering they were non existent at the top. It looked smooth, but it was semi shocking at the top since I'm not used to walking out that much and on top of that I am beat up.

Would be cool to know amounts. Maybe some of the more experienced band guys will take a stab at it.
 
It appears I have some bruising and broken blood vessels on my lower left abdominal area. I was wondering why I am so sore there. ****.
 
rob112 said:
It looks like the bottom of my belt dig into my gut on that side. I'm sitting here thinking one half my core is weaker
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I have a pretty gnarly bruise on my stomach, cut into me on my squats when I had my belt too low. I had it so low I "ran into it in the hole" if that makes sense lol
 
liftandswim said:
I have a pretty gnarly bruise on my stomach, cut into me on my squats when I had my belt too low. I had it so low I "ran into it in the hole" if that makes sense lol
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Yea that's what I figure happened to me as well as it gets all compacted down there
 
Block Pulls(beltless)
160 x 4
230 x 4
280 x 4
320 x 4@7
370 x 2+1+1@9-10
Muffed it. Really struggled getting momentum on rep one and got super light headed so rep two went better, but I still took a minute to get the last two. I notice these I really need to spread my heels as it makes a night and day difference bc I generally rely on building momentum with my quads. Here I had no quad drive.
350 x 4@9

JM Press
Bar x 9
65 x 9
85 x 9
95 x 9
105 x 9@8
115 x 9@9
105 x 9@8
105 x [email protected]
I couldn't go heavy at all on these due to some discomfort still. Since it is more for hypertrophy anyways I just got a lot of work in.

Meadows Rows(single arm so each set is each arm)
Bar x 7
+25 x 7
+50 x 7
+60 x 7@8
+70 x 7@9
+65 x 7@9
These actually got really hard to grip. Felt good through.

Since this workout took less time I added
BFR curl and orange band extensions for 4 times through to get some blood into my left arm. Felt good and feels pretty good now. Ready to get 2
Days rest and go strong again. This week kicked my ass!

Thanks for following!
 
Great pulls today your core is going to be beat

I notice I get light headed when I pull my air in wrong like into the chest more then stomach/belly
 
good work man, I've never done conventional block pulls. I've done rack pulls and depending on where i pulled from it would kill me lol.
 
Duramaxhd said:
Great pulls today your core is going to be beat

I notice I get light headed when I pull my air in wrong like into the chest more then stomach/belly
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I wonder if it is a breathing thing...I don't know. Maybe the exertion getting the bar to more
 
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