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smoker145 said:
Lol ok. Lets disregard the fact that Michael Vick had arguably the greatest game a qb has ever had in nfl history in 2010 against the redskins.

Vick delivers in the clutch, and is a pro at moving the ball down field. In fact, he has the most rushing yards as a qb in history. What has Eli done that makes him hof worthy?
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Two rings when his team was a huge underdog. Vick is streaky; when he's doing well, his numbers are great, but he never truly evolved as a QB and he's had several mediocre years throughout his career not to mention he hasn't won a playoff game since '04.
 
Only qb in history to have:

300 plus passing
50 plus rushing
4 plus passing Tds
2 plus rushing Tds in a single game.

This accomplishment goes to Michael Vick.

And lets be fair here, in 2010 he got under cut by Akers. And the 2011 and 2012 teams were horrible. Terrible o line, and defense.

And talking of streaky, Eli and the giants are ridiculously streaky. Both Super Bowl wins were them turning it around and going on a run
 
smoker145 said:
Only qb in history to have:

300 plus passing
50 plus rushing
4 plus passing Tds
2 plus rushing Tds in a single game.

This accomplishment goes to Michael Vick.

And lets be fair here, in 2010 he got under cut by Akers. And the 2011 and 2012 teams were horrible. Terrible o line, and defense.

And talking of streaky, Eli and the giants are ridiculously streaky. Both Super Bowl wins were them turning it around and going on a run
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Cool factoid, bro. How about a horrid carrer completion percentage, regular/postseason record, and QB rating?
 
Rodja said:
Cool factoid, bro. How about a horrid carrer completion percentage, regular/postseason record, and QB rating?
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Hey man you don't get 4 pro bowl selections for nothing. I posted that single game stat because you guys keep mentioning those single games Eli won.

Eveyone has a different opinion on players. It's the intangible about Vick which makes him great. Tremendous athlete and he rushes and passes, hell if he could kick he could do it all. He will turn some heads this year for sure.
 
smoker145 said:
Hey man you don't get 4 pro bowl selections for nothing. I posted that single game stat because you guys keep mentioning those single games Eli won.

Eveyone has a different opinion on players. It's the intangible about Vick which makes him great. Tremendous athlete and he rushes and passes, hell if he could kick he could do it all. He will turn some heads this year for sure.
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Quoted for future reference
 
smoker145 said:
Hey man you don't get 4 pro bowl selections for nothing. I posted that single game stat because you guys keep mentioning those single games Eli won.

Eveyone has a different opinion on players. It's the intangible about Vick which makes him great. Tremendous athlete and he rushes and passes, hell if he could kick he could do it all. He will turn some heads this year for sure.
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Super Bowl>>>>>>>>>any other game

Look at Namath; his overall career is not fantastic, but he'll always be highly regarded because of his win in SB III. What are these intangibles that Vick has? Underachieving?
 
Rodja said:
Super Bowl>>>>>>>>>any other game

Look at Namath; his overall career is not fantastic, but he'll always be highly regarded because of his win in SB III. What are these intangibles that Vick has? Underachieving?
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So are we belittling regular season stats? I guess Marino or mcnabb is not highly regarded Bc they never won the big game. I guess Trevor Hoffman can't be considered an all time great closer Bc despite his regular season numbers being amazing, his postseason performance was sub par.

Intangibles like scrambling, dodging tackles and especially sacks, and moving the ball down field. He can read a defense, you can't be a qb in the nfl for as long as he has been and not be able to read a defense.

When has he underperformed? 2010 is an example of him carrying a mediocre team and making them look strong.
 
Dude, he can't read a defense man. If he can his reactions are slow. Its science.
 
rob112 said:
Dude, he can't read a defense man. If he can his reactions are slow. Its science.
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When you have one the worst o lines in the league, you clearly have to rush. He was top 3 in hurried and hit as a qb. When he has a stable o line he makes magic.
 
Peyton Manning > Michael Vick


Vick has never been more than a mediocre QB and an above average Rusher. He's definitely an athlete, but he's not a QB.


smoker145 said:
Some truth in that, but there's also truth in saying he will lead the birds to the Super Bowl this year.
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I'm a diehard eagles fan, and I don't expect that at all.

We might have a few good games with Kelly's offense before Vick gets hurt trying to be a RB.
smoker145 said:
The goal of a qb is to move the ball down the field. That's what Michael Vick does. And rings don't define a players career. Ex. Mcnabb and Marino
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The hypocrisy!

We just had an argument about how McNabb was a bum and a choke artist (according to you), now he's good though?


Michael Vick definitely moves the ball, the other way (when he gives all those turnovers).
rob112 said:
Both better quarterbacks than Vick, worse running backs.
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Fact.
Rodja said:
Two rings when his team was a huge underdog. Vick is streaky; when he's doing well, his numbers are great, but he never truly evolved as a QB and he's had several mediocre years throughout his career not to mention he hasn't won a playoff game since '04.
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Fact.
Rodja said:
Cool factoid, bro. How about a horrid carrer completion percentage, regular/postseason record, and QB rating?
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Lol win.
 
jimbuick said:
Peyton Manning > Michael Vick

Vick has never been more than a mediocre QB and an above average Rusher. He's definitely an athlete, but he's not a QB.

I'm a diehard eagles fan, and I don't expect that at all.

We might have a few good games with Kelly's offense before Vick gets hurt trying to be a RB.

The hypocrisy!

We just had an argument about how McNabb was a bum and a choke artist (according to you), now he's good though?

Michael Vick definitely moves the ball, the other way (when he gives all those turnovers).

Fact.

Fact.

Lol win.
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No argument on Peyton. Arguably the best ever, if not, then top 3 I'd say.

Hey anything is possible during a season. Did anyone see the cardinals winning the ws in 2011 when they were 10 plus games out in August? I always believe.

And lol I can argue both sides of an argument. I argued earlier that postseason mattered and many said it did not. So I took a different approach this time. Can't please anyone lol

And he is a different style qb then most. He typically as relied on his pure athleticism ( running) in his falcon days. Now he is more diverse, no Peyton, but no Vince young either.

You can't tell me that Vick doesn't give them the best chance at winning. Many want foles and his 3 yard drops? No thanks. I'm loading up and spinning the chamber on Vick.
 
In complying with many wishes thou, training related posts only from now on from me.
 
5/3/1 Week

Squats

215 x 5, 240 x 3, 270 1+(3)(taped), +black Reversed bands 315 x 2sets of 3
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Recovery Hypers-BW x 20, 15, 15, 15, 15
Torso Twists/Planks-70lbs x 4sets of 15ish, 4 planks to fail

My 5/3/1 weeks will be less volume. I've been planning this. Then instead of AMRAP I load up and SAFELY feel heavier weights. Deads will be completely dependent on how I feel, bench will be with a sling shot. My accessory on these works has a purpose of blood flow and recovery. I really don't want to set back again before december.

I feel like I nailed the squats today, and one of the old school PL's at my gym actually approached me and said my squats were looking good. He estimates that with wraps and solid training to december I will be over my 350 goal and closer to 400. I didn't tell you guys my goals at this time and I still kinda keep that stuff on the low low :D I learned that from reading Tate's Book. I need to read that again...

Bench Tuesday.

Stop reading this and watch some damn football! Redzone = best invention in the last 20 years. G-Men tonight! Merica, Fuk yea
 
Squats did looks very good rob. Nice work. Keep it up.
 
I liked those squats, man. Lookin good!
 
jimbuick said:
Boo Giants.

Although, I'm sure they beat the boys tonight.

My game is Eagles v Redskins.
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That will be a great game. I think Birds will score, but I am not sure they stop RG3. Should be good.

GB at San Fran is going on now. Tied at half.
 
jimbuick said:
Boo Giants.

Although, I'm sure they beat the boys tonight.

My game is Eagles v Redskins.
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Looking forward to the offense. However I'm not gonna be too excited having the birds defense on the field. Well see what happens.
 
rob112 said:
That will be a great game. I think Birds will score, but I am not sure they stop RG3. Should be good.

GB at San Fran is going on now. Tied at half.
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I'm hoping they hurt RG3's knee in the first half, then it wont matter.

I'm watching both games (NFL Sunday Ticket)
 
Swanson52 said:
All your NFL are belong to the Broncos!!
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If G-Men are out of it then then that's who I want to win. I really don't get how people doubt Peyton. He is UNQUESTIONABLY one of the best ever. That man changed the game IMO.
 
Boldin had a hell of a 1st game, it was a good watch. Now it's time for the giants v. Cowboys! Sundays haven't been this exciting in a long time.
 
They are playing so freaking sloppy...against my least favorite team in the world. Pissing me off.
 
Giants ****ing suck. One of the worst games I've seen them play in a long time. They should just pack it up if they don't feel like playing.
 
2003 Alcs game 7. Yanks down 5-2 in the 7th. I go to bed crying Bc I think it's over. My dad wakes me up in the middle of the night telling me they won.

" it ain't over until it's over" - yogi
 
smoker145 said:
2003 Alcs game 7. Yanks down 5-2 in the 7th. I go to bed crying Bc I think it's over. My dad wakes me up in the middle of the night telling me they won.

" it ain't over until it's over" - yogi
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Okay, that's not that bad. I laughed
 
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