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Resveratrol

There was a discussion over at imminst.org between IBE and some quite knowledgable members there where IBE left the discussion upon product release unfortunately.

Yes, I found that Board a little while ago. You're right- those guys actually sound like scientists.

My interpretation of some of their opinions was that IBE shouldn't make the super-bioavailability claims because there was no studies (blood) done to confirm this - at least studies that were acceptable to the Board members.
 
Hmmm... the thing is that its a natural plant product, which the French have been taking it for years without any known adverse affects. Contra-indication is an issue but this isn't dumping exogenous hormone into the system and it seems to go okay with alcohol (red wine).

What we know is that a diet high in vegetables is healthy - no one has ever over-dosed on cabbage, otherwise half central Europe would be in trouble. Plant sterols and anti-oxidants are molecules of great interest.

So basically the French have been mixing resveratrol and anti-oxidants and plant sterols for a long time. If things were very toxic we'd know about it by now.

The very significant problems of bio-availability I think keep the supplement 'safe' if it could be harmful. When fat-soluability kicks in I'd be concerned because residue builds up, without it however than contra-indications should be reversable.

I strongly agree.

I have used too many supps myself and actually made things worse rather than better.

Plain and simply you need to know what your doing and the interactions with supps.

Everyones biochemistry is different. One man's medicine is another man's poison
 
Purity, low Emodin content and micronization are key with oral RSV. There may be some sides that dissipate over time. Right now I feel its working for me, even though Im using under 500 mgs dly TD and oral combined
 
Purity, low Emodin content and micronization are key with oral RSV. There may be some sides that dissipate over time. Right now I feel its working for me, even though Im using under 500 mgs dly TD and oral combined

I read something interesting. We know emodin is the cause of stomach discomfort in Resveratrol for some people, however Emdoin seems to have anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory properties. It's actually one of the beneficial parts of the Polygonum roots where Resveratrol is extracted from. Also these roots are rich in lecithin, on imminst people claim dissolving Resveratrol in lecithin increases bioavailability. I'm starting to suspect we need more parts of the root to take full advantage of Resveratrol.
 
There is probably a ton of research that isnt available to the GP regarding this, they are trying to formulate a drug that has the benefits of the full spectrum minus the deleterious sides, right now pure RSV is it. Although some people can tolerate emodin well and have no problems with less than pure.
 
IHP - greattttt info man!! Props.

What brand do you recommend, as I'm worried about the bioavailability/absorption and don't feel like pissing my money away? LOL
 
IHP - greattttt info man!! Props.

What brand do you recommend, as I'm worried about the bioavailability/absorption and don't feel like pissing my money away? LOL

If I were shopping at nutraplanet I would probably buy the nutracaps resveratrol, t-rez I think it's called, and take 1 cap in the morning on empty stomach. Watch out with medication though because it contains bioperine which partially hinders the metabolism of substances in the liver.
 
Thanks much. so.............what if you were not buying from NP, feel free to PM me some dont cause any hard feelings. Just looking for the best Supp.
 
Question - NOW BRAND is pretty solid. They have Trans Resveratrol relatively CHEAP.

Thoughts?
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Question - NOW BRAND is pretty solid. They have Trans Resveratrol relatively CHEAP.

Thoughts?
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Its ok, but it's a 50% extract so you'll need 2 caps for 1 one NP's caps. Fine though if you can handle the emodin (can cause stomach discomfort in some). There's almost no emodin in a 98 or 99% extract..
 
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Anyone have any comments on the following journal article?

HIGH ABSORPTION BUT VERY LOW BIOAVAILABILITY OF ORAL RESVERATROL IN HUMANS

Thomas Walle, Faye Hsieh, Mark H. DeLegge, John E. Oatis, Jr., and U. Kristina Walle

Department of Cell and Molecular Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics (T.W., J.E.O., U.K.W.) and Digestive Disease Center (M.H.D.), Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina; and Amgen, Inc., Thousand Oaks, California (F.H.)


The dietary polyphenol resveratrol has been shown to have chemopreventive activity against cardiovascular disease and a variety of cancers in model systems, but it is not clear whether the drug reaches the proposed sites of action in vivo after oral ingestion, especially in humans. In this study, we examined the absorption, bioavailability, and metabolism of 14C-resveratrol after oral and i.v. doses in six human volunteers. The absorption of a dietary relevant 25-mg oral dose was at least 70%, with peak plasma levels of resveratrol and metabolites of 491 ± 90 ng/ml (about 2 µM) and a plasma half-life of 9.2 ± 0.6 h. However, only trace amounts of unchanged resveratrol (<5 ng/ml) could be detected in plasma. Most of the oral dose was recovered in urine, and liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry analysis identified three metabolic pathways, i.e., sulfate and glucuronic acid conjugation of the phenolic groups and, interestingly, hydrogenation of the aliphatic double bond, the latter likely produced by the intestinal microflora. Extremely rapid sulfate conjugation by the intestine/liver appears to be the rate-limiting step in resveratrol's bioavailability. Although the systemic bioavailability of resveratrol is very low, accumulation of resveratrol in epithelial cells along the aerodigestive tract and potentially active resveratrol metabolites may still produce cancer-preventive and other effects.
 
I've never heard anyone talk about acne on this product. Can the people who always have a few pimples chime in? I mean, for people who can't even do tribulus without a few pimples, does resV have any affect on your skin?
 
Another little article on Resveratrol benefits:

October 14th, 2009 – Drugs like Viagra (Sildenafil citrate) and Cialis (Tadalafil) are used to treat erectile dysfunction (ED) by increasing blood flow to the erectile tissue in the penis known as the corpus cavernosum.

These drugs increase blood flow to erectile tissue by inhibiting the phosphodiesterase enzymes (PDE5 & 6), which prolongs the action of cGMP in the smooth muscle tissue, increasing the dilation response from nitric oxide (NO) release. However, inhibition of the phosphodiesterase enzyme system has effects across the entire body and can lead to side-effects including headache, skin flushing, nasal congestion and muscle aches. (1) These are very unwelcome side-effects when trying to stimulate sexual arousal.

New research suggests that resveratrol can also trigger erections by promoting blood flow to the erectile tissue in the penis. (2) This vasodilatory effect appears to occur within minutes of resveratrol exposure, suggesting that supplementation may provide a quick temporary boost in sexual performance. (3)

Evidence suggests that resveratrol does not have the side-effects typically associated with popular ED drugs. Resveratrol improves vasodilation by multiple cellular mechanisms, and does not negatively inhibit the phosphodiesterase enzyme system, which can lead to unwanted side-effects. (3) Whether or not resveratrol is a worthy substitute to powerful prescription drugs such as Viagra and Cialis remains to be determined.

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In the absence of 17b-estradiol resveratrol acted as an estrogen agonist in cell culture experiments, however in the presence of 17b-estradiol it acted as an estrogen antagonist.

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