Black 2169
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Hello all, I have been and athlete all my life, I remain in good shape even when not training hard. When I am training I find it easy to put on size and have tremendous motivation, I eat good and I eat a lot. I have spent countless hours researching anabolic compounds and have done a few runs of orals (epi). I am constantly trying to learn more before I consider doing more. I know that orals are not the way to go but between work and family it seems like finding a pin connection is not a something that can happen. I am about to begin training hard again and have jump started the research again. I will obviously wait to cycle anything until I reach a certain level naturally, I have always done it this way. I know not to wast cycles in the early stages of getting back into the game. I have been looking at the suggested stacks by iron mag labs and just wonder how safe they are. I always have used A serm for PCT and I know the proper products and steps. To get to the point I have always wanted to try tren. Epi tren at the moment has caught my eye (IML). Their suggested stack isWeeks 1-4 EPI-TREN Rx ~ 3 capsules per dayWeeks 1-4 4-ANDRO Rx ~ 2 capsules per day (improved mood, energy and libido)Weeks 1-8 Advanced Cycle Support Rx ~ 2 capsules per day (organ and lipid support)Weeks 5-8 Ultra Male Rx ~ 1 capsule per day (post cycle therapy)Obviousy I would use a serm for PCT. in the past I have used toremifene with good results, along with natural boosters. My main concern is running into sides on this cycle or any for that matter. I would appreciate any info on estrogen blockers to be used on cycle or in pct. I have researched this but what I find is often confusing. Also would a topical help this cycle? I know the 4 andro is somewhat a test base but should I add topical? Also what about estrogen rebound issues? Sorry for the long post but it is my first. I have done my own research and will continue but nothing like hearing it from the muscles mouth.Personal info/stats27 years old 5'9"175 have gotten to 190 regularly while trainingDon't know body fat but I have always been lean.Goals/just keep getting stronger/effective muscle and strength -not all about size for me-I want to use it-martial arts-sports ect.Thanks for any help and understanding of how it works in the real world. Sorry if I piss anyone off.
