Regarding Proviron - Experienced Users Only Please

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While doing research the information is all over the place..... Some say it has no muscle building effects, some say it does..... Some say it inhibits natural test production some say it doesn't.

What's the deal? Its a fairly strong androgen so I have a hard time believing that it has no strength/size building qualities. But I haven't used it so I can't say.

So does it build muscle or not? What have YOU noticed?
 
I’m taking 50mg ed now but I’m not sure it’s worth it, I really don’t know.

I don’t think you get any muscle building befits but it could help you break through a sticking point and it’s supposed to help with mood/libido. It sounds like it’s a hit or miss, some swears by it but some (like me) don’t get much out of it.

After I’m done with what I have I probably won’t use it again, unless something major happens in the next few weeks…
 
My opinion based on experience and theory is, that it does very little for muscle growth and performance, but it's great for libido and does elevate mood a little. Also if you're lean enough, it gives a little hardness/dryness. Mind you, I've never went over 50 mg a day. Also based on hear say and 'feels' (meaning no bloods), it doesn't really suppress test production on 25-50 mg. Could negatively effect lipids.
 
The human studies tell us that most men do not see suppression if you keep it to 50mg per day or less. I have done many PCTs, and the couple I added 25mg of Proviron to it was a big help in libido and energy while I noticed zero decrease in recovery time.

I have used it on cycle now at 50mg for something like the last 4-6 weeks and don’t feel it added anything meaningful to my bulk or strength gains at all, just a bit of hair shedding after introduction and a high price tag with worsened lipids.

The human studies also show us it does tend to hurt lipids some, like all orals.

If you aren’t hardening up the final weeks of a prep for a bodybuilding show or day where you want to look your hardest/driest, and you don’t want to use some in PCT, the only other use case I believe in now is acutely for sexual performance/pleasure.

I was in PCT on my honeymoon and thanks to Proviron & a touch of tadalafil it was awesome every day.

All orals and DHT compounds can lower SHBG, Masteron is healthier & much cheaper if using in a stack for estrogen antagonism, so Proviron on a blast doesn’t make sense really to me. Besides an oral only cycle, which is not a sustainable frequent longterm practice.
 
KvanH said:
@Codybenz was it you who liked to run Proviron along side trt?
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Yes, I like running proviron anytime I can, lol. It just gets a little pricey. And I will agree and disagree with some things Hyde said.

Proviron and masteron are similar but do differ in effects, especially individuals. Masteron is definitely cheaper and will harden and offer more strength gains than proviron. In fact no strength gains with proviron and very little hardening if any.

proviron is going offer better libido enhancing and better mental boost. I don’t think the mechanism is understood completely but proviron has positive mental effects. It is prescribed in some countries long term for low t instead of test and is given to men for depression. And several long term studies have been performed on it.

I will argue that masteron isn’t any healthier, and maybe less healthy depending on how you respond blood pressure wise to it and obviously dose dependent. Proviron is given long term in many countries with no real adverse side effects. The cholesterol effects in the studies I’ve seen were insignificant to the point it could have been unhealthy diets causing the change.

I will try to go through my old post and find the studies and literature I’ve posted on proviron before. I tied into with starscream over proviron one time I believe and posted some good stuff.

if you want libido and mood enhancement then choose proviron, if you want some of that with small performance and visual enhancement then go with masteron
 
I would also like to add proviron is the only steroid that has been shown to increase sperm count.
 
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In this 1 year study HDL barely lowered after 1 year on proviron. But what’s funny is LDL lowered more. But again I think insignificant changes. This has a lot of good info.
 
Codybenz said:
Yes, I like running proviron anytime I can, lol. It just gets a little pricey. And I will agree and disagree with some things Hyde said.

Proviron and masteron are similar but do differ in effects, especially individuals. Masteron is definitely cheaper and will harden and offer more strength gains than proviron. In fact no strength gains with proviron and very little hardening if any.

proviron is going offer better libido enhancing and better mental boost. I don’t think the mechanism is understood completely but proviron has positive mental effects. It is prescribed in some countries long term for low t instead of test and is given to men for depression. And several long term studies have been performed on it.

I will argue that masteron isn’t any healthier, and maybe less healthy depending on how you respond blood pressure wise to it and obviously dose dependent. Proviron is given long term in many countries with no real adverse side effects. The cholesterol effects in the studies I’ve seen were insignificant to the point it could have been unhealthy diets causing the change.

I will try to go through my old post and find the studies and literature I’ve posted on proviron before. I tied into with starscream over proviron one time I believe and posted some good stuff.

if you want libido and mood enhancement then choose proviron, if you want some of that with small performance and visual enhancement then go with masteron
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I’d agree with all of that, for sure.

The doctor on Muscular Development’s channel said he always has 25mg in his cruises and 50mg in his blasts, and he can always keep his HDL above 40, but he’s lean, keeping a lower bodyweight, with very clean healthy diet and faithfully doing cardio, & his blasts are like 500mg test only at most.

IMO, 40 isn’t that great, and that doesn’t really describe most guys.

If it does describe you, then I would say go for it, but if someone’s blasts are generally very unhealthy endeavors already like many trying to gain muscle, spending most of the rest of the year with orals involved is making a bad scenario worse. For someone being very moderate and really pursuing health with balanced quality of life improvements, it makes more sense.
 
Codybenz said:
Yes, I like running proviron anytime I can, lol. It just gets a little pricey. And I will agree and disagree with some things Hyde said.

Proviron and masteron are similar but do differ in effects, especially individuals. Masteron is definitely cheaper and will harden and offer more strength gains than proviron. In fact no strength gains with proviron and very little hardening if any.

proviron is going offer better libido enhancing and better mental boost. I don’t think the mechanism is understood completely but proviron has positive mental effects. It is prescribed in some countries long term for low t instead of test and is given to men for depression. And several long term studies have been performed on it.

I will argue that masteron isn’t any healthier, and maybe less healthy depending on how you respond blood pressure wise to it and obviously dose dependent. Proviron is given long term in many countries with no real adverse side effects. The cholesterol effects in the studies I’ve seen were insignificant to the point it could have been unhealthy diets causing the change.

I will try to go through my old post and find the studies and literature I’ve posted on proviron before. I tied into with starscream over proviron one time I believe and posted some good stuff.

if you want libido and mood enhancement then choose proviron, if you want some of that with small performance and visual enhancement then go with masteron
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Starscream allways bringing the best out of people = )
 
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