Recomp stack while on TRT

thatonekid

thatonekid

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Hey guys, few questions for y'all. I'm finally am back in training shape after a year filled with surgeries, ending in an orchiectomy of my left testicle. As a result, i've accepted that TRT for the rest of my life is a reality. Thankfully, my endocrinologist is also a body-builder hobbyist, so he respects the line of work i'm in (I'm a NASM and ACE certified personal trainer with a bachelors in sports medicine) and prescribes me a good dose (currently on 250 mg's once a week of cyp, but we're building to a 400 mg/week maintenance dose).

I'll be up to 400 a week starting the first week of February. Also, i'm on .5 mg of arimidex twice a week, and hCG 3x a week for the first week of every month (500 IU) to prevent atrophy of righty.

I've ran plenty of cycles in the past, including methylated PH's, strictly test cycles, test/tren, test/tren/winny, and test/dbol.

I've been a serious athelete since i was 12 (Midwest league youth ball-NCAA ball), and have been lifting since i was 14, so 10 years now, so lack of training background isn't a factor.

Diet will consist of the exact sme foods every day. A LOT of steamed viggies with nothing but liquid amino's for seasoning, lots of plain chicken breast, lots of tuna, cheese sticks, plain greek yogurt, protien powders, etc. VERY limited carbs first thing AM and post-workout (Less than 25 grams a day outside of veggies) Essentially shooting for 3000 Cals a day with 250 grams of protein. Only water to drink, shooting for at least a gallon per day.

Anyways, i have a few months to get back in prime athletic shape for open tryouts for farm league baseball come fall, and need a recomp in a bad way. I know what i'm talking about/dealing with when it comes to hormone modulation, but i'm just unsure of how far i want to take it this time since professional sports are a whole new ballpark (no pun intended) than college ball.

Currently, i'm thinking about keeping it legal with andro's, maybe some peptides or sarms.

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So far, what i have stocked up on is:
Olympus labs Sup3r-Epi (2 bottles with 60 pills in each dosed out to 250 MG's) ran at 500/500/750/750/750/750/500 plus 2 extra days of 500
The above mentioned prescribed hormones
Acetyl-L-Carnitine ( 2 grams AM 2 grams Pre-Workout)
Pregnenolone 50mg AM
DHEA 50mg AM
7-Keto-DHEA 50mg 1 hour pre-workout
Fish Oil AM and PM
Resveratrol 50mg AM, 50mg PM
10 billion unit probiotic AM
Natty test booster AM and PM
2:1:1 BCAA's 8 grams AM, 4 grams post workout, 4 grams before bed
Pre-workout
Glutamine 4G post-workout 4G before bed
Whey protien shake pre and post workout
Casein shake before bed
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So, while i have this planned out to the T, and i feel what i'm working with now will have impressive results, i want to make sure i couldn't be doing more. So here's what i was questioning adding in:

1.) More andro's. 1-Andro specifically, but i feel 1-T would be drowned out by the cyp and epi.
2.) Thyroid Modulation. I have access to mass amounts of T3 and exogenous T4.
3.) SARMS. I've never ran them, but i've heard amazing things about Ostarine specifically.
4.) Beta 2-adrenergic agonist. I've got massive amounts of albuterol laying around for neb treatments, and clen is easy enough to obtain. Also might just keep it at ECA.
5.)GH modulation. I've used IGF-1, and wasn't too impressed, and i'm not trying to pin HGH either, so i probably won't go with this.

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SO....
What would you guys add? Take away? Modify? I have roughly $300-400 more to play around with for this 8 week shred, any input is welcome.

Again, trying to keep this legal, or at least grey-area at most. I really don't want to worry about ordering controlled substances, as my roommate just got arrested for ordering tren and test to the house and selling it at the gym, so i'm kind-of paranoid right now.

Thanks in advance folks.
 
With more digging and reading, I'm really leaning towards throwing in Ostarine. I've never ran a SARM before, always thought that I'd might as well just run gear. However, it seems perfect for the recomp I'm trying to do.

Something like 25mg ED weeks 1-8.

Also, being on TRT for life, and not being too concerned with shutdown (I have plenty of hCG) I was under the impression I wouldn't need clomid or nolva for a PCT, just some extra liver support. But I still want one more kid (already have one) and one of my buddies said I'd be insane not to. Thoughts?
 
Your trt dose will end up being 400mg cyp per week?

So....youll be trting with a blast dose, and then "blasting" with andros.

Wtf
 
Yeah, there was a lot of nonsense in the OP's post, so I left it alone. Rather than posting here, he should be reporting that quack of an endo to the board because if he truly is working to get a patient to go on 400mg of test as part of TRT, he needs to be removed.
 
I was sitting at 878 at 200 per week, I want 1500 on a constant basis, which is not an unhealthy level. My body responds well to exogenous test, and since I've crashed my own production for the most part, and have a single testicle left, I'm sitting at sub 100 off test. Not insane, given the extraordinary circumstances.
 
If you believe constant 1500 levels of test is not unhealthy, then I'd have to disagree with your statement about "not insane". Have fun.
 
Ill be surprised if 400mg per wk has you <2000 TT.

But, more importantly, wtf are you and your endo thinking? How does he justify permitting this? ATM the whole thing sounds unnecessarily self-indulgent.
 
Nac said:
But, more importantly, wtf are you and your endo thinking? How does he justify permitting this? ATM the whole thing sounds unnecessarily self-indulgent.
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It's 'cause his dealer, err...I mean endo, is a "body-builder hobbyist" so he understands the needs of a fellow bro and aspiring ball player! Maybe he ran one of those "anti-aging" clinics that imploded as part of the MLB steroid scandals. *shrug*
 
Also, just because I'm prescribed that amount, does not mean I'm going to continue to run it past those 8 weeks. It just makes those 8 weeks within the scope of legality for me. Sorry I have a doctor who cares if I **** my body up using basement brewed gear. ?

I have a dream doc for anyone who run AAS, funny the amount of hate this is getting.

I get to have regular blood tests (every other week) and access to pharma grade SERM's in case of emergency, that my insurance pays for. Guess I don't see the big issue here.
 
I dunno, I kinda assumed trt was about encouraging normality. Supraphysiological TT is not normal.

I also figure that supraphysiological TT during trt put one at a greater health/safety risk, for a whole swag of reasons (not limited to just those that blood panels will detect, either).

So again, Im curious what professional (ie medical) justification your endo has for encouraging supraphysiological trt levels.
 
OP stated the justification- his endo doesn't want his patient using UGL testosterone, so he has decided to be his legal dealer and risk his license all for this one special client of his.
 
Everyone needs to stop acting like they actually give a ****. I'm jealous as f#ck that he can get prescribe that much.
 
kisaj said:
OP stated the justification- his endo doesn't want his patient using UGL testosterone, so he has decided to be his legal dealer and risk his license all for this one special client of his.
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Lol sure he is!!! No doctor is going to risk his job for some joe blow off the street. Op is full of ****!
 
I'm under the impression that epiandrosterone is mostly androgenic in quality, converting to DHT, leading to fat loss. While 4-andro was the test base for an andro cycle. 1-andro converting to 1-test.

Come season and tryouts, I'll be on a normal dose of test simply to be in normal ranges. I'm not trying to blast cycles while playing, only trying to get back in performance shape before hand.

This time last year I was sitting at 195 at 10% bf. Currently I'm at 185 at 15.5.

Goal would be 190 at 9% after recomp.
 
As far as pregnenolone, I'm low on my labs, I'll find the paper in a bit to show you exactly values. Same with DHEA. Reveratrol is an antioxidant with some studies pointing to it inhibiting body fat growth.

BCAA supplementation in the am shows instant drops in cortisol, and pm shows anti-catabolic effects. Same with casein. My preworkout is mainly notice oxide boosters. (Arginine and it's analogs, Citrulline, etc).
 
thatonekid said:
Come season and tryouts, I'll be on a normal dose of test simply to be in normal ranges. I'm not trying to blast cycles while playing, only trying to get back in performance shape before hand.
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I wish youd just clarified this earlier. Ho hum.
 
Your endo sounds more like a supplier.

What a thread.
Glad to see AM is trying to keep you alive...
 
I've been on trt for two years... Currently 30. I prescribed 200 weekly and do bloods every 6 months. I increase to 3-400 and toss in orals etc... And bloods always come back fine.

For an ultimate re-comp I would get a decent oral like methylstenbolone along with igf-1 lr3.

The combo is amazing when combined with the right nutrition.
 
OP - how is your cycle going? Also, just looking at your stack, you could probably nix the pregnenalone since the HCG will backfill that hormone.
Movin_weight - you said your bloods came back fine when blasting, does that include lipids?
 
Cycloman said:
OP - how is your cycle going? Also, just looking at your stack, you could probably nix the pregnenalone since the HCG will backfill that hormone.
Movin_weight - you said your bloods came back fine when blasting, does that include lipids?
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For me lipids only get jacked on orals, otherwise they stay in pretty decent shape blasting or not.
 
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