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Anybody try "Rebirth" for anti estrogen? Supposedly it is a natural SERM and does not have the toxic side effects of nolva. Could rebirth be used in PCT?
Anybody try "Rebirth" for anti estrogen? Supposedly it is a natural SERM and does not have the toxic side effects of nolva. Could rebirth be used in PCT?[
If you were gonna go that route which no one recommends get Olympus Labs Super PCT, and it has the same ingredient as rebirth the E Cottini extract is claimed to be a natural serm. But super PCT also has much much more in it, preety sure it’s cheaper to.
FirstAnybody try "Rebirth" for anti estrogen? Supposedly it is a natural SERM and does not have the toxic side effects of nolva. Could rebirth be used in PCT?
Nah that’s a huge misconception, you don’t run HCG during PCT. You run it during your cycle so it can keep your balls working, then as you get on your serm you stop the HCG. It makes it a very smooth transition. HCG is suppressive definitely don’t want to use it during PCT. My first ever cycle was Epistane at 6 weeks, I didn’t listen to people and took super PCT instead of a serm. And I was depressed and had extreme anxiety for about 2 months after my cycle, until I finally took Nolvadex. I would highly advise you to take a real Serm. After all you already putting toxins in your body with the Steroids , A little Nolvadex ain’t gonna hurt.Thanks for the replies brahs! Nolvadex can raise cholesterol levels very high along with AI's. I was thinking about running HCG but read that it can create gynecomastia with estrogen sensitive people. I was thinking about armasin along with nolva to block estrogen or even armidex. It would HCG 3xD for 2 weeks.
Would Rebirth be reliable for PCT estrogen control? HCG will create estrogen build up very fast and I was going to use armasin to stop estrogen rebound if nolva was used. If Rebirth is legit as strong nolva without estro-rebound it might be good option but you like you said it seems better for on cycle control
The E Cottini in Super pct is 600mg which is a bit too high for me. Keep in mind my body is very sensitive and has strong estrogen rebound. The rebirth product has a synergistic effect with the included ellagic acid.
Just to get money, I bet 80% of people who use pro hormones don’t even know what a serm is, and they just pick up a OTC PCT from the supplement shop were it’s main ingredient is arimistane lol.You know, I've often wondered...if for any cycle (light or heavy) you need a proper SERM for recovery, then why make supplements and market them as OTC Serms? It kinda gives an incorrect impression that using said supplement is good enough for a cycle.
Nah what I was saying that is since I didn’t take a proper PCT, my hormones were all at of wack, and that was causing me to just to feel completely out of wack, until it finally took Nolvadex. Which 1-2 weeks into nolva I felt 100% better, felt like I was taking test.It's less about the toxicity per se and more on the hypersensitivity to products. Last time I took nolva my cholesterol spiked to 250 and the estrogen started rebounding very fast when I stopped.
I have never cycled pro-hormones or steroids. I took a natural test-booster from GNC called "Test-freak" which acted like a pro-hormone in terms of the testosterone build up and estrogen sides. I highly doubt I have the genetics for steroids - as the cholesterol build up would undoubtedly create a heart attack. (Steroid with AI/SERM)
If I had the choice between a Natural SERM vs Nolva/AI. I would probably go with a alternative given how sensitive my body is. Ellagic acid with Eucheuma cottonii seems legit but from what your saying Bigmatt57 it sounds like it can have a nasty effect on your mood and will create anxiety/depression like clomid.
To be honest I’m one of those people because not one steroid has made me feel ****, toxic and so on but I have stayed away from harsher gear like superdrol, Tren and so on.ill never understand that.. people are willing to put toxic ph/hormones/aas into them but will then try to avoid serms... makes zero sense to me
Something like Nolvadex at 20mg daily makes you feel that bad?To be honest I’m one of those people because not one steroid has made me feel ****, toxic and so on but I have stayed away from harsher gear like superdrol, Tren and so on.
Swarms though To me feel toxic, I feel like death, depressive......
I’m always on now though so need to touch them again.