real gear vs orals

Brolic said:
meaning using the needle vs poping pills.. whats better and why?
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First, they're all real gear. They all serve their purpose just differently.

There are pro's & con's to both. To make orals bioavailable they are methylated which brings about some concerns regarding hepatotoxicity. They do kick in much quicker than most IM, esterfied AAS (unless you are using a suspension of base hormones which is usually more painful and needs to be done daily). I do believe both oral and IM have some similar risks e.g. cholestasis.

I found this at one time:

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jonny21 said:
First, they're all real gear. They all serve their purpose just differently.

There are pro's & con's to both. To make orals bioavailable they are methylated which brings about some concerns regarding hepatotoxicity. They do kick in much quicker than most IM, esterfied AAS (unless you are using a suspension of base hormones which is usually more painful and needs to be done daily). I do believe both oral and IM have some similar risks e.g. cholestasis.

I found this at one time:

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those are all valid points but wouldnt you agree that orals are harder on the body in the big picture?
 
pistonpump said:
those are all valid points but wouldnt you agree that orals are harder on the body in the big picture?
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Defintiely. Especially if you were to consider the duration i.e. 12 weeks of Test E vs 12 weeks of Oral Stanazol.

I was actually addressing his title "real vs oral"
 
If you're going the illegal route,you do needles,it's a no brainer.If you stay legal,then you don't have the needle option.
 
Brolic said:
so WHY do orals? heatlh wise
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They serve their purpose. Limited/minimal risk if done correctly. Some of the negatives have been unfairly overhyped.
 
jonny21 said:
They serve their purpose. Limited/minimal risk if done correctly. Some of the negatives have been unfairly overhyped.
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and based off those who abuse.My Dad and Step-Mom's family is full of regular drinkers who do get drunk quite regularly(drunks)None of them have,and likely won't,develop health problems,it takes an extremist like an alcoholic.The world is full of regular drinkers,yet when you hear of problems it's people that go to aa meetings and try to quit but can't.They drink when they wake up and during jobs when they have one,pretty much 24-7,and usually stright liquor.This even takes a while to start causing serious problems.
 
pantera101 said:
and based off those who abuse.My Dad and Step-Mom's family is full of regular drinkers who do get drunk quite regularly(drunks)None of them have,and likely won't,develop health problems,it takes an extremist like an alcoholic.The world is full of regular drinkers,yet when you hear of problems it's people that go to aa meetings and try to quit but can't.They drink when they wake up and during jobs when they have one,pretty much 24-7,and usually stright liquor.This even takes a while to start causing serious problems.
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i know when i used to drink alot and often that my body felt more taxed and unhealthy than it has ever felt on liver toxic oral steroids.
 
I used to get drunk on a regular basis,even by myself.At the time i was used to it and felt fine,even first thing in the morning.Now i hate it,when i wake up to go to the bathroom i have a headache and then i can't fall back to sleep.Then i feel tired and run down for most of the day with next to no appetite.Some people on here were saying that severe liver strain can cause a loss of appetite.
 
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