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Rarely asked IGF questions

heavyperformer

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Hallo !

I'm new to the forum and going to start IGFuse in a while.

My questions are these:

1)What would be an IGF dosage just for hormone replacement ?
I mean how much IGF a healthy adult produce each day ?


2)What kind of strength gains can someone see with IGF ?
Does it help with strength ? I want to know this because i'm a powerlifter.
 
I can help answer question #2

I powerlift also and have been using IGF-1 throughout a cycle for a meet I am competing in next weekend. I don't believe it helps so much with strength. I have noticed a decrease in fat with an increase to the muscle mass (even a little more vascular) with no loss in strength. You being a powerlifter should know that the bigger one can be usually the stronger one may get. I believe it has also helped me with the aches and pains often associated lifting with heavy weights.

Stick with testosterone for strength.

Hope this helps.
 
A good dosage to start w/is 40mcg a day. Not sure about how much a healthy adult produces, but for bodybuilding purposes that's the recommended starting dosage. As for the strength gains don't expect anything huge. Unless used in conjunction with AAS and still the majority of the strength will then be coming from the AAS. Check out the stickies at the top of the page. They'll answer any question you have.
 
Since your second question has been answered, here is an answer to your first.

"Normal IGF-1 blood levels in adults range from 200 to 450 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter). Yet, one-third of individuals over 50 years of age show abnormal levels less than 200 ng/ml. During the growth spurt of youth, HGH levels are maximum and the IGF-1 will be measured well over 600- 800 ng/ml. Yet for normal men and women under 40, less than 5% have levels below 250 ng/ml."

Keep in mind this is just answering the question of what a normal range of igf-1 is in adults. As for using igf-1 LR3 for long term hormone replacement, i doubt that'd work out too well.
 
JonBlaze said:
1 microgram (mcg or µg) = 1000 nanograms (ng)
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Thanks,
one more thing just to clarify something on GH.
What is the maximum HGH levels during the growth spurt in i.u. 10?
 
JonBlaze said:
Since your second question has been answered, here is an answer to your first.

"Normal IGF-1 blood levels in adults range from 200 to 450 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter). Yet, one-third of individuals over 50 years of age show abnormal levels less than 200 ng/ml. During the growth spurt of youth, HGH levels are maximum and the IGF-1 will be measured well over 600- 800 ng/ml. Yet for normal men and women under 40, less than 5% have levels below 250 ng/ml."

Keep in mind this is just answering the question of what a normal range of igf-1 is in adults. As for using igf-1 LR3 for long term hormone replacement, i doubt that'd work out too well.
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Thanks for covering my ass there blaze. It's nice having a GH/slin/IGF-1 specialist on the board. Everybody else should just sit back and learn.
 
Sticks said:
Thanks for covering my ass there blaze. It's nice having a GH/slin/IGF-1 specialist on the board. Everybody else should just sit back and learn.
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lol, i'm not a specialist. I just regurgitate back what einstein taught me in PMs. :thumbsup:
 
if memory serves the human body has in teh region of 5 liters of blood in it, so your talking 10mg - 22.5mg of IGF-1 in the blood, but rember it has a short half life, so your (say) 40mg I.M. shot wont be around all day and /may/ supress natural production.

so at growh spurt the natural level is around 35mg total in the blood.
 
I know LR3 IGF-1 will not contribute to quick strength gains. however if it causes ur body to make new muscle cells, as these muscle cells mature and grow wouldn't it contribute to strength gains down the road? more muscle cells = more strength
 
in regards to the last poster, i think there is a lot of speculation this might be true. iow, it's a potentiator for later growth. there are certain things you can do to rev up those satellite cells, and IGF appears it might be one of them

fwiw, i would like to see somebody who is on a cycle of IGF (say 50 mcg a day) get some bloodwork done and see if levels were supraphysiological, and if so, how high
 
One thing to keep in mind is that even if you multiply the concentrations posted for "average" people by "normal" blood volumes, you're still not doing the math fully.

Even if we were to assume, and I strongly believe that would be a wrong assumption, that a trained athlete would have comparable IGF-1 levels to a normal person, there is still the fact that IGF-1 is found in muscle and other tissue themselves.

There is abundant mention of autocrine IGF-1 after exercise, which has different effects than systemic IGF-1. Autocrine means that the tissue itself manufactures the compound inside the very cells.

Now for counting that amount, you need a heck of a lot more science than what there is in 2004...
 
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