Ran out of DMZ

mikeymike85

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Hey Amigos-- Low and behold, started a DMZ run 10-12 days ago, and just realized I only have maybe a week left.. ugh.

Question now is-- do you think after I end the DMZ (would most likely be a 15-17 day run in total), is diving right in to Epistane a bad idea to make a full cycle at least?

Running VAR as well. Not sure how EPI and Var work together... Cheers
 
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2 dht's? Could be very dry! Are you cutting, bulking, test base etc, give us some more info
 
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My dude, testosterone and estrogen are essential for your body. Grab a test or test derivative (Test, Dianabol, 4-AD) before anything else. But to answer the question, yes employ the compound. Why not? If you've got a sufficient PCT protocol and you get some T you should see good progress.
 
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My dude, testosterone and estrogen are essential for your body. Grab a test or test derivative (Test, Dianabol, 4-AD) before anything else. But to answer the question, yes employ the compound. Why not? If you've got a sufficient PCT protocol and you get some T you should see good progress.
I agree with this. test should be the base to any cycle. if you can get var, you should be able to get ahold of some tset too.
 
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Problem here is you’re forgetting blood concentration and the time a compound takes to yield results. Orals like dmz are super strong sure but they still take quite a few days to take action. Let’s say you drop dmz 12 days in.. you were just a few days in the interesting point so imo it was a waste. THEN, you’re a new oral so you’re back to point 1 where you’ll need several days to reach blood concentration of the new drug. You’re going to do 15 days of epistane and once again the drug will be at its peak a couple days before you stop. So all of this IMO , is putting your body through toxicity and stress for not much. Completely useless.
 
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How does this even happen? You started a cycle and didn’t know how much you had or what?
Yeah honestly I don’t understand that. How can you possibly not take the 2.3 seconds it takes to calculate your dosage and how much you have. Anyways. The only option imo is to buy more dmz and hoping you have it in time.
 
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I did a "pulse" cycle before with dmz, epi and h drol all at once using leftovers from previous cycles. I did something similar and it surprisingly got me massive gains. I know something like this is controversial so I never talk about it in detail but I honestly think it can work for you - especially if you start epi before ending the dmz.

I know people talk about blood concentration and how it takes a while for compounds to work and I understand that to be 100% true. However, when I pulsed compounds I still made incredible gains and felt better than a normal cycle. I mean monday I might have done some dmz, then on wednesday and then friday, etc. then the next week I might have done epi 3 days and maybe combine dmz with it, and then some h drol for a week straight.. it was absurd, but it worked.

I won't do it again as I don't plan on doing a cycle anytime soon and I'd rather do it right. But my experiment cycle did prove to work, so switching to epi might work for you.
 
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Problem here is you’re forgetting blood concentration and the time a compound takes to yield results. Orals like dmz are super strong sure but they still take quite a few days to take action. Let’s say you drop dmz 12 days in.. you were just a few days in the interesting point so imo it was a waste. THEN, you’re a new oral so you’re back to point 1 where you’ll need several days to reach blood concentration of the new drug. You’re going to do 15 days of epistane and once again the drug will be at its peak a couple days before you stop. So all of this IMO , is putting your body through toxicity and stress for not much. Completely useless.
I would run the Epi for 4-5 weeks
 
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