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R-ALA/NA-R-ALA Questions.

ma70

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So this supplement has discussed plenty and it's already been confirmed that the termination elimination is 17-22 hours. Would this mean that the best time to dose this would be in the morning, in it's full dosage? Why do people split up the dosage?
 
I lean to NA rala

And for the majority if the benefits, at a good dose, fasted in the morning is fine
 
Driven2lift said:
I lean to NA rala

And for the majority if the benefits, at a good dose, fasted in the morning is fine
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Yup, that's what I've been told. If it stays in tissue for basically the entire day, there seems to be no need to split dose it, unless the nutrient partitioning is a more acute effect.
 
ma70 said:
Yup, that's what I've been told. If it stays in tissue for basically the entire day, there seems to be no need to split dose it, unless the nutrient partitioning is a more acute effect.
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In a GDA it would be a smaller dose so they suggested prior to each large meal

In bulk at a good dose you're set
 
Guys take it 15-30 minutes pre meal! Don't take in morning on empty stomach if you are not going too eat! Trust me you will feel nauseous and sick and the product will go too waste! It needs carbs too be utilized!
 
Paulyd97 said:
Guys take it 15-30 minutes pre meal! Don't take in morning on empty stomach if you are not going too eat! Trust me you will feel nauseous and sick and the product will go too waste! It needs carbs too be utilized!
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Carb shuttling is not its only use

It does not make you hypoglycemic at any normal dose
 
EMPIREMIND said:
What doses do you guys do for each scenario?
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I think he means that if Na-R-ALA is included in a GDA formula, it should be used pre-meal. If using alone (like I am), it should be okay to use at the start of the day or whenever you first want to use it.
 
From Examine:

Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) is a mitochondrial fatty acid that is highly involved in energy metabolism. It is synthesized in the body and can be consumed through eating meats and minimally in some fruits/vegetables.

In supplement form, it has shown benefit against various forms of oxidation and inflammation. These effects carry on to benefits that protect one from heart diseases, liver diseases, diabetes, and neurological decline with age.

It is a potent anti-oxidant compound. It works with mitochondria and the body's natural anti-oxidant defenses. It is also seen as an anti-aging compound since it can reverse some of the oxidant damage related effects of aging.

Things to Note

Alpha-Lipoic Acid, despite being a fatty acid, appears to be water soluble in the gut and is absorbed by transporters. Coingestion with fatty acids in the diet does not appear to be required
Can be bound by avidin, and thus coingestion with raw egg whites can possibly negate the benefits of supplementation

Standard dosages of Alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) tend to be in the range of 300-600mg; with little differentiation as to whether the racemic mixture of ALA (S- and R- isomers) or Na-R-ALA results in higher blood levels.

Alpha-lipoic acid appears to be absorbed via transporter-related means, and despite being inherently fat-soluble it does not require dietary fatty acids to be absorbed from the gut. ALA supplementation can be taken in a fasted state.
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Good stuff, and pretty cheap.
 
ma70 said:
I think he means that if Na-R-ALA is included in a GDA formula, it should be used pre-meal. If using alone (like I am), it should be okay to use at the start of the day or whenever you first want to use it.
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WhT i was asking is what dosage do you guys take in the morning for the whole day setup? and or what dosage do you take for the gda pre meal setup?
 
EMPIREMIND said:
WhT i was asking is what dosage do you guys take in the morning for the whole day setup? and or what dosage do you take for the gda pre meal setup?
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300mg Na-R-ALA seems to be the go-to at the start of the day. And for ALA, I believe it's 3x as much (900mg). I see people splitting doses in half for the GDA setup (150/150)
 
ma70 said:
300mg Na-R-ALA seems to be the go-to at the start of the day. And for ALA, I believe it's 3x as much (900mg). I see people splitting doses in half for the GDA setup (150/150)
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And i would assume 450/450 for gda use of ala?
 
not to be taken with MCT, because they inhibit the absorption in the intestine ..
I used the Na-R-ALA of PremiumPowders, and am currently using the K-R-Ala 10 Liquid, and the R-Ala Bio-Enhanced (both of Geronova Research)
high quality, if not the best.... I personally take it before meals containing carbohydrates, to maximize / vehicular storage of glycogen, so as GDA.
note: if you take the liquid, do not take it with acidic foods or juices
 
I use timed release ala in 300mg tabs (minus 10 or jarrow ala sustain or source naturals timed release ala) as well as na rla from aor mito charger and cl glycobol. Good stuff for fat burning and damage limitation when havinqg cheat meals. Ive noticed visible recomp changes with ala no matter how i dose it. Ive been taking it for over 10 years and its one of those supps i wouldnt go without. Very underrated in my opinion. However it makes me feel flat when im low carbing so i reduce the dose accordingly when necessary
 
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