Quick Tren question

Mudveins

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So I'm just coming to the end of my cycle of 100mg test prop eod
100mg mast prop eod
50mg Tren ace eod
50mg proviron ed

I'm at the 10 week mark and dropping the tren, I will continue the other 3 compounds for 2 more weeks before starting my pct.

The reason the tren is so low is because I had to cut the dose in half on week 5 as I was having terrible sides regarding my libido. The libido came back sorta, but every once in awhile I'd have ED.
So my question is: Now that I am dropping the tren ace but continuing with test and a lot of DHT ... will my sex drive likely spike within the next 4 days when the tren is out of my system, or will it take quite awhile for me to bounce back? I know everyone is different, but I'm just looking for experience/educated guesses.
 
It should come back fairly quickly once you drop it, especially since youre continuing the prop, mast and proviron
 
Next time try running test lower. Like, approx a trt dose (100-150mg per week).

Its counterintuitive, but you probably wouldve been better off cutting your test dose in half, not the tren.

Also, you didnt mention any AI use.
 
I've heard that some guys can't function unless their test is approx double their tren dose... which I though would be the case with me. What makes you think that making the tren higher than the test would keep my libido up? If prolactin was the issue... I don't know why high tren low test would have fixed the problem... if the tren is causing it.
Then again I didn't get bloodwork done at the time so I don't know for certain, just trying to understand your theory.
 
Prolactin is typically only an issue if estrogen is also high...what can push estrogen up?
 
Mudveins said:
I've heard that some guys can't function unless their test is approx double their tren dose... which I though would be the case with me. What makes you think that making the tren higher than the test would keep my libido up? If prolactin was the issue... I don't know why high tren low test would have fixed the problem... if the tren is causing it.
Then again I didn't get bloodwork done at the time so I don't know for certain, just trying to understand your theory.
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I bolded and underlined your mistake in thinking. Test does not have to be at OR above tren.....hell some prefer not to test at all alongside tren and have zero libido issues. You have to find what works for YOU
 
Ok, I understand what your saying there... but can't tren just in itself cause a rise in prolactin and that being the reason people run caber or prami when running tren? Just going with what I have read... though im curious to try that on my next cycle
 
It just strange that I lowered my tren and my libido went up... that's the only reason I speculated that I might be "one of those guys" ... of course I won't know without trying
 
Mudveins said:
Ok, I understand what your saying there... but can't tren just in itself cause a rise in prolactin and that being the reason people run caber or prami when running tren? Just going with what I have read... though im curious to try that on my next cycle
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Its weird the way it works. In real life, tren without test is not likely to cause an estrogen related issues. Test however will cause estrogen to rise which can potentiate the possibility of prolactin issues. Without elevated estrogen you wont have prolactin issues...but you can have estrogen issues without prolactin problems
 
So in theory... if I run a trt dose of test and let's say 400mg tren and 400mg of mast on my cut in June ... I should likely have no libido issues or a need for caber?
 
Next time try a test dose that has you at the high end of physiological range. Then, let the tren do the work. 300mg tren per week is equivalent (a:a) to 1500mg test.

You can always tweak/increase your test dose til you find your test:tren sweet spot, as nosnmiveins indicated too.
 
Mudveins said:
So in theory... if I run a trt dose of test and let's say 400mg tren and 400mg of mast on my cut in June ... I should likely have no libido issues or a need for caber?
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Yes, its very likely you wont have issues, but it is always smart to have meds on hand just in case
 
You see high test doses all the time because test is cheap as ****, so over the years its grew into a "thing". Old school bodybuilders and guys from europe use little to no no test in their cycles. Its consider a dirty drug
 
OP, you do have an ai like aromasin on hand too, right? Not wise to rely on prov/mast.
 
Yes, I never start a cycle without a non expired bottle of armidex in my gear drawer, along with nolvadex and hcg in case I need to immediately stop a cycle. Though I have never had to open a bottle of armidex because I have never gone above 500mg of test a week and my body seems to handle it very well. Caber and prami are a different story... it's almost impossible for me to get my hands on caber and if I can it costs $300. ��
 
Very interesting on the old school bodybuilder part... I know I've read Arnold and those guys just cycled dbol, primo, and deca. Yet nowadays I hear it all the time " any good cycle should have test as the main base"
 
Mudveins said:
V any good cycle should have test as the main base"
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As a base correct, but people often misinterpret that as "main compound". Meaning that test should be run in higher doses than everything else.

Primo, deca and dbol were the MAIN 3 compounds back in the day. Like i said, test was considered a very dirty drug and only became popular because of how cheap it is. Did you ever here about gyno back then? Nope, because no one was runnning much test.

If you read oooooold threads and oooooooold articles you'll see a very surprising and enlightening trend
 
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