Quick opinion needed !!! Epi+Tren VS Epi+Stano

[csayer]

Best cycle out of the two for a lean bulk ? taking into account likely results ,sides and general harshness on body !

 

[JD284]

what kind of tren? dienolone(trenazone) or trenavar? both are non methyl bu can still impact your liver. stano requires a very high dose to be effective. i'm on an epi tren cycle now (19nor tren). stano is kinda weak imo - its always stacked with something else. you can probably just stack all three.

 

[rphash49]

what kind of tren? dienolone(trenazone) or trenavar? both are non methyl bu can still impact your liver. stano requires a very high dose to be effective. i'm on an epi tren cycle now (19nor tren). stano is kinda weak imo - its always stacked with something else. you can probably just stack all three.

Oh ya. I stacked trenazone(called something else now), epi and stano for 6 weeks. Great run. OP if this is your first cycle I'd run epi solo to see how your body handles it. If you stack 2+ compounds and have sides it may be hard to tell where it's coming from

 

[JD284]

Totally agree with rphash49. Yeah it was bought out by iron legion and its called dienezone now (more accurate)

 

[csayer]

I mean a Tren Ph such as Trenavar !
and it is my second cycle , my first being a solo epi run ,which was really good(maybe a bit short) with the only real side effect being lethargy .

 

[Wilko]

What was your dosage? How long?

Epi+Tren is going to be a leaner, strong, more mass-gaining cycle, but it invites a whole slew of side effects. Once I hit around 120mg of Trenavar there were nasty back pumps, night sweats, sleep became damn near impossible, pretty much lost all appetite, and then there's the goddamn trenmares. I honestly thought these were exaggerated, but around 180mg my dreams got fairly ugly. Not to mention you're dealing with a progestin, so you'll need a dopamine agonist like Cabergoline to keep things in check.

Personally, I would advocate Epi+Trenazone - Antaeus' transdermal dienelone. Say 30mg/2ml ED.

 

[csayer]

What was your dosage? How long?

Epi+Tren is going to be a leaner, strong, more mass-gaining cycle, but it invites a whole slew of side effects. Once I hit around 120mg of Trenavar there were nasty back pumps, night sweats, sleep became damn near impossible, pretty much lost all appetite, and then there's the goddamn trenmares. I honestly thought these were exaggerated, but around 180mg my dreams got fairly ugly. Not to mention you're dealing with a progestin, so you'll need a dopamine agonist like Cabergoline to keep things in check.

Personally, I would advocate Epi+Trenazone - Antaeus' transdermal dienelone. Say 30mg/2ml ED.

Cheers for the info ! My epi cycle was just over 3 weeks (1 bottles worth) , i ran it 30 mg for the first 3 days and on the last day but a 40mg ED for the rest of the cycle. I did really enjoy it i wish i cold have kept it up for longer but due to lack of funds i had to just go straight into PCT after 1 bottle !

 

[Wilko]

Wait until you can run at least 4 weeks. I would personally shoot for 6 weeks. Please note that I've had enough bloodwork done to be sure that six week methyl runs aren't prohibitively damaging to me. Short of bloodwork, I would advocate dropping the Epi after week four and pushing the dienelone to 3ml. That's when it really starts to shine. Best of luck.

 

[heckler7]

hows the epi-tren? I ran trenx years ago, is it as good?

 

[Wilko]

I'll shoot you a PM. Don't want to hijack the thread.

 

[heckler7]

I saw some epi-tren combo for sale that looks pretty good but haven't seen anyone run it. don't worry about hijacking the thread aint much going on in here.

 

[csayer]

I saw some epi-tren combo for sale that looks pretty good but haven't seen anyone run it. don't worry about hijacking the thread aint much going on in here.

yer thats fair , Im interested anyway