Quick: could JW make someone fail a drug test?

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Buddy is a world-ranked natural power lifter. He wants a legal boost. Could JW cause him to fail a drug test?
 
poison said:
Buddy is a world-ranked natural power lifter. He wants a legal boost. Could JW cause him to fail a drug test?


We can never make guarantees on something like this. Please have him check with the governing agency for the contest.
thanks
 
I personnaly don't think this would cause a problem... You should check, as Viperspit stated, with the event organizers. ;)
 
poison said:
Buddy is a world-ranked natural power lifter. He wants a legal boost. Could JW cause him to fail a drug test?

I answered a similar question via phone last week. If the sanctioning agency only prohibits AAS and their metabolites, then no. However, if they test any ratios such as test to estrogen, free testosterone to total testosterone, etc...there very well may be some issues. TO my understanding, the majority of tests will fall under the former though...
 
Max32 said:
I answered a similar question via phone last week. If the sanctioning agency only prohibits anabolic steroids and their metabolites, then no. However, if they test any ratios such as test to estrogen, free testosterone to total testosterone, etc...there very well may be some issues. TO my understanding, the majority of tests will fall under the former though...

Good point Max. Not to turn this into a whole other subject, but do some agencies in fact test ratio's? I really can's see how that would be fair, as people's chemistry is very different. Take my old ass for instance, I'd probably test lower on the Test side and higher on the Estrogen side. If that we the case, I should be able to use AAS legally for events :D ok, enough of that, I'm done being stupid now.
 
I beleive most organizations tolerate 600%. Nothing more. Tell me if I am wrong, but natural anabolics will do about 300% increase, so there's no danger IMO...
 
Viperspit said:
Good point Max. Not to turn this into a whole other subject, but do some agencies in fact test ratio's? I really can's see how that would be fair, as people's chemistry is very different. Take my old ass for instance, I'd probably test lower on the Test side and higher on the Estrogen side. If that we the case, I should be able to use anabolic steroids legally for events :D ok, enough of that, I'm done being stupid now.
Yes VP,

But you are looking VERY HARD, and only sounding silly. lol
 
One of my testers had labs on his cycle of JW, it raised his test about 200 points. IF you are fearing testing, then discontinue JW 3-4 weeks prior to competition.
 
You can see the current WADA list here:
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I think the most likely problem will be the Aromatase Inhibitor in JW, as these are banned in S4.

You also have to bear in mind that the tests are really not that precise, and this is partly by design, in that they want their tests to detect substances that are chemically similar to known banned drugs, to stop people getting round the tests by using drugs that have a similar performance boosting effect, yet are slightly different to the drugs that the tests were based on. So it's possible that the androgen receptor modulating ingredient in JW would also trigger a positive test. I'm not sure if the chemical formula of this ingredient has ever been made public?
 
FitnFirm said:
We tell people if you are worried, just dont use it! Its simple huh :)

Thats why I've moved to Costa Rica, where male hrt starts at 750 mgs of test per week! hehehehehe

I plan on using JW for my bridge of recovery. 4 weeksof 250 mgs of omnas. I will keep you posted FNF.
 
motiv8er said:
Thats why I've moved to Costa Rica, where male hrt starts at 750 mgs of test per week! hehehehehe

I plan on using JW for my bridge of recovery. 4 weeksof 250 mgs of omnas. I will keep you posted FNF.

yea, but good luck getting a decent steak down there ;)
 
motiv8er said:
Thats why I've moved to Costa Rica, where male hrt starts at 750 mgs of test per week! hehehehehe

I plan on using JW for my bridge of recovery. 4 weeksof 250 mgs of omnas. I will keep you posted FNF.



Ya baby BRING IT!!!!! Id love to follow your progress!!! Dont worry about Viperspit, Ill :bruce1: in place ;) Im sure there is plenty of beef in your area :)
 
Viperspit said:
yea, but good luck getting a decent steak down there ;)

You hit that one on the freaking head, all the cows here taste like they have that anti-myostatin gene. Fvckin world famous mountain steers. My taste like rock but they do some wild recovery missions!
 
FitnFirm said:
Ya baby BRING IT!!!!! Id love to follow your progress!!! Dont worry about Viperspit, Ill :bruce1: in place ;) Im sure there is plenty of beef in your area :)

Just one beefcake that I know, ;)
 
I wanted to touch back on this subject and give an important recomendation. Since ADED is infact a metabolite of ATD, and though ATD is an ai, like ADED, atd is structurally similar to equipoise on paper. This could potentially scew a drug test in terms of EQ metabolites. At this time, I would say BAM would be a safer choice for the drug tested athlete, b/c these tests simply have so much room for error. Let's see, taking EQ or ATD both can show metabolites of the same substance.....:wtf:
 
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