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Questions on 1st cycle

PackinSmurfs

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First cycle:

Test Cypionate - 400mg a week split into (2) 200mg injects Monday and Friday for 8 weeks

Arimidex - 1/2cc every day until end of PCT

HCG- Starting one week after last test injection and doing 1/2cc Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for 3 weeks

Have been contemplating running HCG throughout the course of the test cycle and using novaldex/adex/hcg all with PCT

Thoughts? What would you change/add to cycle?

Thanks
 
PackinSmurfs said:
First cycle:

Test Cypionate - 400mg a week split into (2) 200mg injects Monday and Friday for 8 weeks

Arimidex - 1/2cc every day until end of PCT

HCG- Starting one week after last test injection and doing 1/2cc Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for 3 weeks

Have been contemplating running HCG throughout the course of the test cycle and using novaldex/adex/hcg all with PCT

Thoughts? What would you change/add to cycle?

Thanks
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First off i would run 500mg of trst but 400 is ok. You don't start running hcg 1 week after your last test Injection, it actually suppresses hpta. You run it throughout 2x a week. . You start pct 2 WEEKS after your last shot. You don't need to run adex that much, and you don't run it with Nolva either I believe. You need to read up on hcg and look into clomid/Nolva for your pct. your nuts will thank us. Oh and run it minimum 10 weeks. Test C is a long ester it starts kickin hard around week 5
 
>Ok so bump the test up to 500mg a week.
>HCG while on cycle (2x) a week<---what dosage should I use?
>Should I continue taking Adex and HCG until 2 weeks after last test inject and then use Nolva and Clomid?
>What dosage of Nolva and Clomid do you recommend to use?

Thanks!
 
PackinSmurfs said:
>Ok so bump the test up to 500mg a week.
>HCG while on cycle (2x) a week<---what dosage should I use?
>Should I continue taking Adex and HCG until 2 weeks after last test inject and then use Nolva and Clomid?
>What dosage of Nolva and Clomid do you recommend to use?

Thanks!
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250iu's twice per week.

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Arimidex .5 EOD or E3D

No need for both Clomid and Nolva.
 
Run the hcg 250ius every 4 days.
Don't run armidex with Nolva as they compete for the same receptors. Use aromasin in pct as this will prevent estrogen rebound as it is a suicidal inhibitor.
Clomid or Nolva either one but if you've only got armidex run the clomid.
 
250iu hcg twice a week during cycle. Some people like to blast it at 1000iu one week before pct starts.
 
I am also looking into doing my first cycle of real gear. I have been on oral otc ph's for a few years on and off. mainly the original finaflex and a few other quad blends.

i plan on running cyp alone for 10 weeks (would 12 be more beneficial?) also should i also take proviroxyl as an e blocker and if so what should the dosing be? i am just a little worried about gyno and have also heard this will give the libido a little extra kick.

i plan on following with nolva at 40/40/20/20 2 weeks following my last injecition.

do my doses seem correct? anything i should change?

i have been in the gym for 3 years and have seen some decent gains with the otc phs but nothing over 8lbs or so. it just wears on my kidneys. im 5 10 157lbs about 8-10%bf my goal is to get up around the 170-175 range. any input is appreciated. didnt mean to jack the thread but i found it by searching and someone else who searches will just get a little more info with less clicks. thanks
 
bouchez71 said:
I am also looking into doing my first cycle of real gear. I have been on oral otc ph's for a few years on and off. mainly the original finaflex and a few other quad blends.

i plan on running cyp alone for 10 weeks (would 12 be more beneficial?) also should i also take proviroxyl as an e blocker and if so what should the dosing be? i am just a little worried about gyno and have also heard this will give the libido a little extra kick.

i plan on following with nolva at 40/40/20/20 2 weeks following my last injecition.

do my doses seem correct? anything i should change?

i have been in the gym for 3 years and have seen some decent gains with the otc phs but nothing over 8lbs or so. it just wears on my kidneys. im 5 10 157lbs about 8-10%bf my goal is to get up around the 170-175 range. any input is appreciated. didnt mean to jack the thread but i found it by searching and someone else who searches will just get a little more info with less clicks. thanks
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I would use either Aromasin or exemestane as an AI no need for proviron for your first cycle. I would go 12 weeks just because cyp is a slightly longer ester then ethanate. Your libido will be on fire with the test alone honestly, I was afraid I would break my girlfriend around week four. Nolva 40/40/20/20 should be fine. You are a bit small to be starting gear though (no offense) maybe you have a small frame.
 
how should i dose my AI and how often? is it necessary or precautionary? i guess its better to have it on hand than not
 
bouchez71 said:
how should i dose my AI and how often? is it necessary or precautionary? i guess its better to have it on hand than not
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Arimidex is .25mg e3d to start and then changed according to needs I personally run it at .25 eod
Exemestane is normally around 6.25mg ed changed as needed some people need more some less also depends on how accurately dosed yours is. I ran one brand at 25mg ed and that felt about right (severely under dosed) another brand ran it at 12.5 and my joints felt like fire.
 
With my ai I have read to also take it w my post. Should I do so and should I also run my ai on my 2week off period?
 
bouchez71 said:
With my ai I have read to also take it w my post. Should I do so and should I also run my ai on my 2week off period?
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I would run it last two weeks before pct but I will also be running a prop tapper but a lot of people still run it while the ester clears.
 
bouchez71 said:
What is a prop tapper
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It is running prop during the off time with the long ester so that way you still have a bit of get up and go running.
 
5'10, 157 after years of PHs? I think you need to work on your PCT and nutrition. Your're sitting where I would be if I was natty, but with proper PCT and getting mu diet in check, I've been able to hold onto 20-25 lbs of lbm. Unless of course you're a holocaust survivor and you are somehow holding onto some kind of gains.
 
PackinSmurfs said:
First cycle:

Test Cypionate - 400mg a week split into (2) 200mg injects Monday and Friday for 8 weeks

Arimidex - 1/2cc every day until end of PCT

HCG- Starting one week after last test injection and doing 1/2cc Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for 3 weeks

Have been contemplating running HCG throughout the course of the test cycle and using novaldex/adex/hcg all with PCT

Thoughts? What would you change/add to cycle?

Thanks
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Sorry to aid the thread jack. But I agree with what you've been told. Also look into clomid, I've been steered towards it by lots of vets as it helps to stimulate endogenous test production. A combo of hcg throughout, and DAA with clomid sounds like the most testicularly friendly combo out there. (In terms of getting test production restarted).
 
Well people have to inform others for it to become "common knowledge" so I guess it's a good thing were putting it back out there.
 
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