superone
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Questions about Adrenal Fatigue, my blood results and help please
Hi guys, okay a little background info on myself first,
This is a long read so please bare with me, i dont want to cut any corners.
Im 23 years old, and when i was 21 i used Propecia, for about a year, then Avodart for almost a year, on and off.
The sides that i had were mainly some brain fog, fatigue, moodyness, a puffy face, weaker ejaculation, and i got stressed out a lot easier.
The reason i tried Avodart, was because i read that some people had sides on Finesteride, but none on Avodart, plus the results were a lot better in most people and i really wanted to destroy my MPB.
I also used an anti-estrogen called AIMF ( topical ATD ), while using Avodart, and some Arimidex once in a while, to protect against estrogen.
Everytime i quit the drugs, i went completely back to normal within 3-4 weeks, and all sides were gone.
This May, i took my last Avodart pill, then quit, but at the same time i started taking these fatloss stimulants called Thermorexin, Levorex, and Cardio Breeze. Ive always been naturally 8-12% bodyfat, but i wanted to get down really low, because i thought it might get rid of my puffy face, since reducing estrogen to almost nothing, didnt get rid of it, i didnt know what the hell was the cause. But Minoxidil also caused me a puffy face, so it was hard to determine which made it worse. I quit Minoxidil aswell in May.
So i got really bad anxiety and jitters from these stimulants, and i trained a lot. I noticed that when i woke up in the mornings i had absolutely NO energy at all, and had to take more stimulants just to get me going, and i didnt know at the time that i was doing more damage to myself.
So i still felt really fatigued, depressed, my face was still round and puffy, i gained a bit of belly fat on my lower abs which i never had before in my life, despite me dieting for the first time in my life, and i just felt like complete crap.
So at the end of June i had enough and went to my Doctor, explaining to him my symptoms, and he ordered me to do a general blood test but no hormones except for TSH.
So everything was normal, except my White Blood Cell count was a bit low, 3.5 Ref 4.0 - 11.0
My TSH was 1.24 Ref 0.35 - 5.00
So after bugging the crap out of my Doctor, he tested me for Free Testosterone, LH, FSH, and DHEA-S.
These tests were done 1 month ago on 15/AUG/07
Free Testosterone = 53.6 Ref 31 - 94
FSH = 3 Ref 2 - 8
LH = 3 Ref 2 - 6
DHEA-S = 2.8 Ref 7.6 - 17.4 LOW
So i started researching, and told my Doc a couple days ago that i suspect i messed up my Adrneals with the stimulants, and he said okay lets retest DHEA-S and do a 24 hour Cortisol urine test.
I wont get the Cortisol results back untill next week, ,but today i got the DHEA-S results i did on Tuesday 18/SEP/07
DHEA-S = 3.7 Ref 7.6 - 17.4
STILL low 1 month later!
So my Doctor finally sent my results to a really good Endocrinologist, so he could help me out. He doesnt know anything about this stuff to really help me out, as he's just a GP.
Im worried though about this. Why arent my adrenals healing on their own and why is my DHEA-S levels so low still? Im not using any stimulants any more.
If i supplement with DHEA, and if my DHEA-S levels get higher as a results, can i stop using DHEA, and will my levels still be normal without having to keep using DHEA?
How do i approach this?
I just started using Reset A.D. and i have some Dermacrine and Sustain on hand.
Could the Dutasteride have possibly been a culprit? If so how? In the past before i ever touched stimulants, i went back to normal withing 3-4 weeks of qutting either Finesteride or Dutasteride, the only difference this time was my stimulant use, and i never recovered since.
I would really hate not being able to use Dutasteride, because it worked great for my hair.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi guys, okay a little background info on myself first,
This is a long read so please bare with me, i dont want to cut any corners.
Im 23 years old, and when i was 21 i used Propecia, for about a year, then Avodart for almost a year, on and off.
The sides that i had were mainly some brain fog, fatigue, moodyness, a puffy face, weaker ejaculation, and i got stressed out a lot easier.
The reason i tried Avodart, was because i read that some people had sides on Finesteride, but none on Avodart, plus the results were a lot better in most people and i really wanted to destroy my MPB.
I also used an anti-estrogen called AIMF ( topical ATD ), while using Avodart, and some Arimidex once in a while, to protect against estrogen.
Everytime i quit the drugs, i went completely back to normal within 3-4 weeks, and all sides were gone.
This May, i took my last Avodart pill, then quit, but at the same time i started taking these fatloss stimulants called Thermorexin, Levorex, and Cardio Breeze. Ive always been naturally 8-12% bodyfat, but i wanted to get down really low, because i thought it might get rid of my puffy face, since reducing estrogen to almost nothing, didnt get rid of it, i didnt know what the hell was the cause. But Minoxidil also caused me a puffy face, so it was hard to determine which made it worse. I quit Minoxidil aswell in May.
So i got really bad anxiety and jitters from these stimulants, and i trained a lot. I noticed that when i woke up in the mornings i had absolutely NO energy at all, and had to take more stimulants just to get me going, and i didnt know at the time that i was doing more damage to myself.
So i still felt really fatigued, depressed, my face was still round and puffy, i gained a bit of belly fat on my lower abs which i never had before in my life, despite me dieting for the first time in my life, and i just felt like complete crap.
So at the end of June i had enough and went to my Doctor, explaining to him my symptoms, and he ordered me to do a general blood test but no hormones except for TSH.
So everything was normal, except my White Blood Cell count was a bit low, 3.5 Ref 4.0 - 11.0
My TSH was 1.24 Ref 0.35 - 5.00
So after bugging the crap out of my Doctor, he tested me for Free Testosterone, LH, FSH, and DHEA-S.
These tests were done 1 month ago on 15/AUG/07
Free Testosterone = 53.6 Ref 31 - 94
FSH = 3 Ref 2 - 8
LH = 3 Ref 2 - 6
DHEA-S = 2.8 Ref 7.6 - 17.4 LOW
So i started researching, and told my Doc a couple days ago that i suspect i messed up my Adrneals with the stimulants, and he said okay lets retest DHEA-S and do a 24 hour Cortisol urine test.
I wont get the Cortisol results back untill next week, ,but today i got the DHEA-S results i did on Tuesday 18/SEP/07
DHEA-S = 3.7 Ref 7.6 - 17.4
STILL low 1 month later!
So my Doctor finally sent my results to a really good Endocrinologist, so he could help me out. He doesnt know anything about this stuff to really help me out, as he's just a GP.
Im worried though about this. Why arent my adrenals healing on their own and why is my DHEA-S levels so low still? Im not using any stimulants any more.
If i supplement with DHEA, and if my DHEA-S levels get higher as a results, can i stop using DHEA, and will my levels still be normal without having to keep using DHEA?
How do i approach this?
I just started using Reset A.D. and i have some Dermacrine and Sustain on hand.
Could the Dutasteride have possibly been a culprit? If so how? In the past before i ever touched stimulants, i went back to normal withing 3-4 weeks of qutting either Finesteride or Dutasteride, the only difference this time was my stimulant use, and i never recovered since.
I would really hate not being able to use Dutasteride, because it worked great for my hair.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.