Question on 1,4ADD

[Brooklyn]

I could be missing it, but according to Invalid Link Removed 1,4ADD is not a banned substance. So if this is true why is it no longer produced by anyone? Is it just that supp companies are concerned about further federal action? It certainly doesn't seem to stop companies like AX or ALRI from releasing very borderline products. If something's not on the list yet, what defines it as unreasonable for sale?

 

[Siznoyton]

No, its not on the list and it has been sold by a few companies post-ban, including 1fast.

Best to keep this quiet, though, obviously. BTW, the methylated equivalent is also not on the ban list.

 

[B5150]

So if this is true why is it no longer produced by anyone? Is it just that supp companies are concerned about further federal action?

IIRC it was in limited availability to/by retailers pre-ban because of a patent issue with the 'developer'

It certainly doesn't seem to stop companies like AX or ALRI from releasing very borderline products. If something's not on the list yet, what defines it as unreasonable for sale?

And in here lies the issue with discussion of these sort products and especially the availability or access to them. They are loop-holed androgens that did not fall under the 'letter' of the law. This leaves them sort of 'grey area' supplements. The discussion on the board of the use of these products is not restricted, but the discussion of access to and availabilty (site/retailer links, etc) of such is strongly discouraged. Suffice is to say that this has been discussed before and again discouraged.

 

[lifted]

My guess is that along with what B5150 already said, 1,4 diol/dione was the lamest PH out there IMO. Even at doses of 1g+, it did absolutely nothing for me but drain my pockets. So IMO why sell it if it was junk to begin with? Not many buyers considering what's out there now. Now M1,4 is a totally different story as far as results go.

 

[Brooklyn]

I'm sorry, I meant M1,4ADD. I understand that the unmethylated version wasn't nearly as good. I didn't mean to imply that I was asking for source posting. I just was wondering, as a question to some of the minds on here, what makes Superdrol and E...max/Phera-Plex acceptable to sell by retailers whereas other "grey area" supplements along similar lines are not. Seems like with such a competitive supplement market, someone would still produce such products.

 

[B5150]

I didn't mean to imply that I was asking for source posting.

I did not think you were, but the potential for the next poster to do so increases as the thread grows.

I just was wondering, as a question to some of the minds on here, what makes Superdrol and E...max/Phera-Plex acceptable to sell by retailers whereas other "grey area" supplements along similar lines are not. Seems like with such a competitive supplement market, someone would still produce such products.

I'm thinking it may be a supply and demand issue. They are all 'grey area' but some have a higher volume of sales and demand potentiating the risk/cost benefit/profit ratio...I guess.

BTW...you still in the neighborhood. I was B&R in BayRidge/Bensonhurst/BoroPark/SunsetPark area and went to school at Brooklyn Tech H.S.

 

[SJA]

Now that the question has been answered, I think that this thread should disappear