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question for thesinner or other knowledgable person...

Andromedus

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I'm relatively new to steroids (but not bodybuilding) and have been doing extensive research lately. At first I was planning on doing an all-oral stack but have since changed my mind. My planned stack is a fairly simple beginner regimen:

Week 1-4: Oral Dianobol
Week 1-10: Testosterone Enanthate

It took me a lot less time to settle on that cycle than it has been to decide on my post cycle therapy. I read thesinner's post on post cycle therapy and it effectively summarized everything I've pieced together from dozens of other sites (which is why I appealed to him in the title, he seems to know his $hit).

I'm thinking some mixture of Clomid, Nolvadex, and Methyl B-Androstenetriol is what I'll need but I can't piece together when I should begin taking which ones, or if there is one I should take during any of weeks 1-10 while I'm taking test, and what dosages I should go for. Can someone offer a bit of advice here? If there is a better product that I haven't even mentioned, please speak up.

I sympathize with the frusteration that regulars must feel when someone inexperienced comes along, but I have put in a great deal of time trolling sites to get to my current knowledge base and have hit a bit of a wall. Thank you.

I was also wondering if anyone advocated gradually reducing the amount of testosterone injected for maybe the last couple of weeks, in order to ease the body off of it. I haven't heard of this anywhere but just wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on it.
 
First, I would recommend extending your Test E to 12 weeks, but back to your question. I suggest to use Toremifene at a dose of 120/90/60/30 for PCT and either Retain or Restore as an anti-cort supplement. The reason I recommend Tor is that it is less hepatoxic than nolva, easier on lipids, and doesn't kill your libido.
 
My quick advice....Done taper the dose down, run it for atleast 12 weeks, and check out Toremifene instead of clomid/nolva.
 
Yeah, I had a feeling people would recommend the test for for all 12 weeks, and I probably will to be honest. Toremifene, eh? I haven't looked into this one as much as the others, will have to get on that.
 
What the hell is this place coming to? We have a steroid advice thread directed at Sinner? :wtf:


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jmh80 said:
What the hell is this place coming to? We have a steroid advice thread directed at Sinner? :wtf:


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I explained why I directed the title towards him in my post - it was largely a result of seeing his post and it matched everything I've seen thus far. I'm new to this board so I don't yet know who's advice is good and who's full of $**** - thus he is one of the few w/credibility in my eyes. If you can help though your advice is appreciated.
 
I was kidding bro - just giving Sin a hard time.

I second 12 weeks on the test, and toremifene. That stuff brings the libido DAMN fast.
Rodja gave you the dosing I use.

All you need then is an anti-cortisol product. The m-bAET sounds good. I think that's in Retain (not sure off the top of my head which retain).

You also need Cycle Support. That'll take care of the cholesterol and liver issues the D-bol will introduce.

You could consider a test booster to help with workouts. I love Powerfull. Alpha Drive XL is on sale cheap - it's a good product also.
A creatine product is also a good idea (if you respond to it).

Finally - best of luck. Do it right - your first cycle is your best.
 
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