Question about starting first cycle.

classyplastic

classyplastic

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I'm a beginner, starting my first cycle. 33 years old 5'9" 170lbs. After some research i've decided stacking Epi-Andro w/ 4-Andro. 1 pill Epi-Andro and 1 pill 4-Andro in the morning, then a 2nd 4-Andro late afternoon. Would this be a good start? Or just go ahead with 2 of each a day instead? Hoping to gain 8-10 pounds and some strength. Thanks!

Edit: Will be running with Cycle Armor, then AD-3 PCT after 30 days
 
Get something stronger for your PCT...that alone won't cut it.

What is the dosage of each product? Or what brand? 1 pill from one company can be different to another's
 
white_lie said:
Get something stronger for your PCT...that alone won't cut it.

What is the dosage of each product? Or what brand? 1 pill from one company can be different to another's
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Epi-Andro: 3b-undexyloxy-5a-androstan-17-one 50mg, 6,7 dhydroxybergamottin 45% 15mg each

4-Andro: 3b-enanthoxyandrost-4-en-17-one 50mg, 6,7-dihydrogergamottin 45% 15mg each
 
classyplastic said:
Epi-Andro: 3b-undexyloxy-5a-androstan-17-one 50mg, 6,7 dhydroxybergamottin 45% 15mg each

4-Andro: 3b-enanthoxyandrost-4-en-17-one 50mg, 6,7-dihydrogergamottin 45% 15mg each
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50mg in each?
1 pill won't be enough, I believe most people run 200-500mg generally, with some saying more like 800 for EpiAndro.
With that dosage, you need a lot of bottles to run a decent cycle. Have a look at Hard Rock's Supermandro and Andro the giant. You get a lot more per cap.

EpiAndro isn't 1 andro btw.
 
^this. Full doses you need in a single bottle. Andro the giant, androvar, and super Mandro are all properly doses for a 30 day cycle. 50mg of those compounds will do almost nothing. I will be running 8 weeks of super Mandro and giant in a couple weeks. It's great stuff. You will also want to grab a serm.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/andro-the-giant-by-hard-rock-supplements
 
classyplastic said:
I'm a beginner, starting my first cycle. 33 years old 5'9" 170lbs. After some research i've decided stacking Epi-Andro w/ 4-Andro. 1 pill Epi-Andro and 1 pill 4-Andro in the morning, then a 2nd 4-Andro late afternoon. Would this be a good start? Or just go ahead with 2 of each a day instead? Hoping to gain 8-10 pounds and some strength. Thanks!

Edit: Will be running with Cycle Armor, then AD-3 PCT after 30 days
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You can gain 8-10 pounds without these anabolics. At 5'9" 170 lbs, you have room to add more LBM naturally. I'm 5'8" and got up to a very lean 185 before I ever touched an anabolic (which was at the age of 34). Get on a solid program and stick to it (5/3/1 is awesome), eat clean but eat to grow and make sure you're sleeping well. Do all that before you get involved with these compounds. Besides, the ones you listed are weak as hell and will end up doing more harm than good. There's a reason why everyone says test is best
 
throneof said:
You can gain 8-10 pounds without these anabolics. At 5'9" 170 lbs, you have room to add more LBM naturally. I'm 5'8" and got up to a very lean 185 before I ever touched an anabolic (which was at the age of 34). Get on a solid program and stick to it (5/3/1 is awesome), eat clean but eat to grow and make sure you're sleeping well. Do all that before you get involved with these compounds. Besides, the ones you listed are weak as hell and will end up doing more harm than good. There's a reason why everyone says test is best
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I'm not trolling you but how long have you been training to get to a lean 185? I'm 33, 5'8" and been training about 7 years but when I lean out I'm around 165... Just looking for tips.
 
lifted67 said:
I'm not trolling you but how long have you been training to get to a lean 185? I'm 33, 5'8" and been training about 7 years but when I lean out I'm around 165... Just looking for tips.
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Don't let someone else's weight and height effect what you're doing. If you feel like your training and diet are on point and you're ready to take things to the next level then go for it. You will drive yourself crazy comparing stats over the net with other people.
 
yates84 said:
Don't let someone else's weight and height effect what you're doing. If you feel like your training and diet are on point and you're ready to take things to the next level then go for it. You will drive yourself crazy comparing stats over the net with other people.
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Didn't mean to come off as comparing, just wanted to see what style of training he has been using, but I for sure see your point. Thanks.
 
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