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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

Caretata said:
Does Saw Palmetto somehow interact with the mechanism of 1-Andro?
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None that I know of but saw palmetto isn't as wonderful as people like to believe.

I'll have to dig up the article on it.
 
I do recall that saw palmetto does inter act with hormonal output?? it seems to me though it was something like it occupies the receptors ... or shuts down LH..
something.. im going to do a little look around and will get back in a few
 
it seems to block conversion of test to DHT. but does some other things... if your considering it for your hair, its definitely NOT worth it.. if your taking it for over all health then I would likely use between cycles. it does block some of the estrogen at the prostate, so im not sure exactly why your taking it.
basically I think there are better options than saw palm for each intristic problem you might be taking it for.
does this help? I can dig further if you need
 
It's included in my multi and I've read somewhere that it might interfere with the effect of the ph (1-andro + 4-AD in my case) and I was wondering if I should discontinue it during the cycle
 
if its part of a comprehensive multi formula by all means you can take it.. I would only suggest not taking it if you were specifically dosing it for something.
the dose in your multi probably isn't big enough to hurt your cyckle
 
Hello everyone. I've been back to working out for about 2 years now after a looooooong time off (I am 35) and looking for a little boost. 1-ando looks like the perfect place to start. I've been reading posts and reviews for a couple days now and I feel like there is some conflicting information out there regarding the PCT cycle after using this product. I've seen a lot of people say you only need an OTC when using this product, but quite a few members (typically with high reps and post counts) say you still need Nova or Clom. I have some pubescent gyno that has hung around since, so I am naturally worried using any PH could trigger more. Does the need for a SERM vary from person to person? Should someone such as myself that could possibly be predisposed to gyno take a SERM anyway just to be safe?
 
Unearthed said:
Hello everyone. I've been back to working out for about 2 years now after a looooooong time off (I am 35) and looking for a little boost. 1-ando looks like the perfect place to start. I've been reading posts and reviews for a couple days now and I feel like there is some conflicting information out there regarding the PCT cycle after using this product. I've seen a lot of people say you only need an OTC when using this product, but quite a few members (typically with high reps and post counts) say you still need Nova or Clom. I have some pubescent gyno that has hung around since, so I am naturally worried using any PH could trigger more. Does the need for a SERM vary from person to person? Should someone such as myself that could possibly be predisposed to gyno take a SERM anyway just to be safe?
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To answer your question first, yes, the need for a SERM varies person to person. If you're prone to gyro, having it on hand just on case is a good idea but you may be fine with an OTC.

Have you used PHs before? If not, maybe you'd like to start with something milder like MASS 550 (not a PH) and progress from there. Even without a boost(er) you should see quite a big of progress in gains/strength the first six months or so.
 
RegisterJr said:
To answer your question first, yes, the need for a SERM varies person to person. If you're prone to gyro, having it on hand just on case is a good idea but you may be fine with an OTC.

Have you used PHs before? If not, maybe you'd like to start with something milder like MASS 550 (not a PH) and progress from there. Even without a boost(er) you should see quite a big of progress in gains/strength the first six months or so.
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No, I have never used any supplement other than protein/creatine. I purchased a bottle of Erase a couple of weeks ago (impulse buy) but haven't taken any of it. I will start looking into the MASS 550, thank you for the recommendation sir!
 
Unearthed said:
No, I have never used any supplement other than protein/creatine. I purchased a bottle of Erase a couple of weeks ago (impulse buy) but haven't taken any of it. I will start looking into the MASS 550, thank you for the recommendation sir!
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No problem brother. Thank you for your interest in FINAFLEX.
 
at your age mass 550 may just be the ticket.. I will tell you how ever, that if 1 DHEA is something your wanting to try then I would highly recommend you start gathering a couple bottles and set it aside for later use. the legislation is trying to out law anything that might even look anabolic on paper.
 
How should you space your doses troughout the day?
12 hours between each dose?
Do you have to wait between your 1-Andro and 4-AD pills?
And should you take them or empty stomach or with meal or with fats?
 
what are the caps ? 110 mgs finaflex or something else/? remind me again how much you intend to take vs. how much is in the caps.
I do recommend at least 15 mins between PHs.
some fish oil pills will work or make a shake with flax oil, olive oil or peanut butter. any small fatty intake will be the best in this case'
typically do to the nature of PHs (actual pro hormones) there is a pretty short half life so splitting up your dosing through out the day will be best.
 
I went with the AMS products because I got a sweet deal on the hormone regulation stack.

Got 2 bottles of 1-Andro + 2 bottles 4-AD

I'm planning to take 300mg (3pils)
for 6 weeks of each

So, 1 pill 1-Andro + 1 pill 4-AD x3 times a day with 15min between them, with a meal with fats

Does that sound right?
 
JohnnyS said:
I just got an email saying that there is another prohormone ban coming. Possibly in the next 2 weeks. Is that true?
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The ban passed the senate and is just waiting for POTUS to sign it it. I believe companies and manufacturers will be allowed to sell out, but I'm not positive.
 
So I was reading the ban and it specifically does mention herbal type supplements. Why would Mass 550 not be affected by the ban if it is an herbal test booster?
 
time will tell what happens with this. remember.. anything they want to out law will still need to be added to the list before its illegal. as to the herbal stuff, as I understand it, it excludes herbal stuff and only is targeting anabolic hormones. NOT estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and DHEA.
 
Yeah, cause I didn't see 1-andro on the list. Maybe because it's found naturally in the bark of pine trees. Thank God for trees!
 
So I guess I need to decide now then. My thing is I do not have a serm. Would 2 daily for 30 days be doable with an oct pct? If I am playing with fire then I will just accept that it's not for me and go with the mass 550. Thanks for help guys.
 
I think you should try it and see.. but be warned. you should buy several ...cause you will love it. don't bother going 200 mgs.. do 300.. use an OTC prep and just realize it will take longer to recover than it might other wise if you had a serm. is there a reason you cant get a research grade serm?
 
I honestly am not sure how to go about getting one. I did find my way onto a website that started with a and ended with guys...but not sure if legit??
 
Ok so I decided to **** instead of get off the pot. Found a seemingly reputable source for nolva and plan to incorporate that into the pct. If I go 300mg of 1-andro, would I dose the nolva at 20/20/10/10 along with 2 caps of the rev pct nightly for 4 weeks? Also I've looked into the 1-alpha product as well. Would this be a similar product at 1 cap a day or two? I see it is more potent. I was also thinking of 4 weeks of alpha at one daily and then 2 daily for last 2, making 6 weeks.
 
Although we can't comment on the nolva, that is a common PCT protocol yeah.

Alpha well produce dryer gains with more strength. Andro will put on more size with less strength but a little water retention. It depends on your end goal.

If sheer size is the goal andro.

Leaner with more strength, alpha.
 
Actually sounds like alpha is more what I'm looking for. I'll start looking into dosages for that. Thanks again for the help!
 
Is Finaflex NOW going to be keeping alpha and andro since the PH ban since they're safe from being banned?

I thought they were thinking of deleting PH cause they wanted to go natty or cause of the impending ban?

But DHEA PH are safe and not banned.
 
Johnold said:
Is Finaflex NOW going to be keeping alpha and andro since the PH ban since they're safe from being banned?

I thought they were thinking of deleting PH cause they wanted to go natty or cause of the impending ban?

But DHEA PH are safe and not banned.
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Best of my knowledge we are still getting out of the market bud.

New times are upon us and were always trying to stay on the leading edge of the industry.
 
Montego1 said:
Best of my knowledge we are still getting out of the market bud.

New times are upon us and were always trying to stay on the leading edge of the industry.
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Of course. Unfortunately.

I've never dabbled in PH &DS.

This ban is going to change the fitness industry and physiques all around the world..

Through this recent BAN I found out or, REALIZED here on Anabolic Minds just how many people were on DS. I was shocked.

What happens to everyone's fitness goals and physiques when their ph and ds are no longer around to help them?

Either people are going to start jumping on real juice, test, or quit all together lol.

That's gotta suck to try working out WITHOUT your drugs.
 
It doesn't suck at all. But when you are taking something either natural or not it makes what you are after come a little better or a lot better. Depends on what your taking.
 
It all depends on the individual I guess.


There will be a next new thing I'm sure.
 
I mean that science is moving fast in this area, so I figure with in the next 5 years someone will find a true mystatin blocker allowing for unparelled muscle growth. also gene doping will start to emerge in the next decade too.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
I mean that science is moving fast in this area, so I figure with in the next 5 years someone will find a true mystatin blocker allowing for unparelled muscle growth. also gene doping will start to emerge in the next decade too.
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God I hope so.

Do you think the push for this research is going to come greatly cause of the ban?

Never took PH & DS but it WOULD be great if someone came out with a myostatin blocker.
 
I think the push is sports science but not because of the ban. this is like the 4th or 5th ban in my life time. there is always someone trying to figure out how to perform better so the ban is kind of too little too late. science is probably ahead of the gvnmt by at least 10 yrs.
 
Is it common to notice no effects at all 10 days in. Lifting heavy, eating 500-1000 over maintenance @3 caps/day
 
The three week mark is pretty standard for most noticeably effects.
 
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